Redundant Nitrous Oxide dispensing containers in an Active/Active configuration...



ok.. the drivers side and the passenger side of the trunk are not symetrical... so we did what we could... also there was no carpet where the shaker amp and subs were... I think i'll have the whole trunk redone in the spring! LOL

 

Oh Yeah!! Thats very pretty Scrming!! LOL!! You know just how to lay the bottles down, to get a guys juice's flowin!

Yes Sir, it is a quite impressive NOS setup you have overall, that actually works well, and has catapulted you to the top of your field, in 05+ Mustang's without a V8!

Hey Scrming, I know your going to be running tomorrow, are you even the slightest bit tempted to install the 125 Jets just to make sure you can claim 12's? I have the utmost of confidence the 100 jets can make it, but have you been contemplating that .5 tenths which is monkey on your back for tomorrow? Doesn't seem like much to the everyday passer-by, but do you think you can get it done?

I already told you success comes in at 12.99 ET.. Anything better than that is just gravy!

 

right now they're saying 80% chance of rain.. dang... hate to drive ALL that way for nothing... if you know what I mean!

Yeah.. believe me the 125's have crossed my mind more than once!!! But I will stay the course... and stick with the 100s for now... LOL

 

You could just order another trunk liner from Ford.

 

yep... for a $120!!!! LOL! I'm thinking something in... oh, i don't know... maybe yellow!!! LOL!

 

I was looking at your dyno numbers, it seems like you should be making more HP with 354 RWTQ. Do you think the exhaust ports, headers, exhaust or fuel system is holding back rwhp? I think the injectors can handle more, maybe 275+ rwhp. I heard the exhaust ports could be a problem.

 

yeah, i was kind of wondering the same thing... not sure what's holding it back... don't think it's the fuel... I want to get it on the dyno again... just to double check...

 

Completely disappointed day! We decided not to go to Norwalk today because of 80% chance of rain... Went to a more local track... The track was horrid... it was just TO COLD... nobody was hooking... LOTS of break downs... The track was down more than it was up... guys were spewing parts and fluids all over the track... Best I could manage was 13.8... argh!!! Oh well.. win some... lose some... The car and me came home in one piece so that is the main thing!!!

Think i'll have one more chance to run the car next weekend... weather permitting...

wish I had a better track report! LOL!

 

Thats ok!! It was just a bad day... Its gonna happen.. I promise you, at some point in the future, you will run a 16.10ET.. LOL!!

Well, atleast we have another week to think about the setup.. Have you talked with Lidio, to find out the track conditions?

 

well..... it's like this.. Lidio was one of the guys spewing fluids down the track! He took his Mach 1 today (2003 i believe)... Had a fresh motor in it... first run down the track and he's blowing coolant! They didn't catch it and sent the next guy down the track and he hit it and made an unannouced lane change! Luckily he was running by himself.. Not sure what happened to Lidio car... Can't believe he already poped a gasket... most likely his radiator (over flow) cap failed... There were a couple other catastrophic failures... like rods, etc... so.. while it wasn't a good day for me... was a lot worse for others!!!!

and a 16.10???? LOL! thanks for the vote of confidence!!! LOL!

 

John,

There's a good discussion on nitrous tuning on the GT board. Do you think tuning is limiting your rwhp?

Greg

 

yeah, i've been following that thread... I know we tuned very conservative... This is one area where I'm very happy with conservative... LOL! Trying to see if I can get back on the Dyno soon...

 

Scrming, I thought that the SOHC 4.0 motor was setup with the type of cam to benfit from nitrous by a more profound torque curve as opposed to HP..

You must take into account that it is more than obvious, the 1/4 mile in itself is more acceptable to RWTQ than HP.. Your numbers prove this..

Looking at a GT's with Nitrous, have you not noticed the 4.6 engine benefits from nitrous by increasing the HP curve more profundly than torque? This is because of the stock cam..

With Powerhouse's V6 05 Mustang, with a 150Shot, it produced 439RWTQ.. The car ran a 12.3 ET while only having about 300HP tops.. This is in stark contrast to a GT which is @ 300RWHP and 320RWTQ running 13.5's..

So your on the right path.. Your at 354RWTQ.. This is your only concern, and not the amount of HP...

Lets say for the sake of argument the GT's have realistically about 290RWHP, and 290RWTQ stock..

The 300RWHP, and 320RWTQ is with a good tune, and perhaps a few other small mods..

Basically, the 1/4 mile does benefit from HP, but the more overbearing factor is TQ.. Lets just say TQ gets you to the first 1/8th marker, and HP carries you through the last 1/8th..


This guy is a good example of what I mean...

You can beat this guy to the 1st 1/8th marker.. Where you have to be concerned is in the last 1/8th.. You must beat him to the first 1/8th, or you will not have enough HP to beat him in the 2nd 1/8th..

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...slip-4855.html


This is you Scrming!

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...slip-6521.html


So let mie finish this up by saying this... A 2005 Mustang GT does have a slight drawback overall.. This is the stock CAM is geared more to produce HP than TQ.. This is good and bad.. The bad part is, they have a tough time getting good 1/8th mile scores.. The good part is, they can make up the difference in the 2nd 1/8th..

One more bad part.. This is if a 2005 Mustang GT cant beat their opponent to the 1st 1/8th marker, they need to somehow find enough HP to get to them before they cross the traps.. Which means, they need alot more HP to make up that difference..

 

So do you think tuning is a problem?

If what MSP is saying is correct and looking at Powerhouse's numbers, John's tune looks good. Powerhouse's hp to tq ratio is about 70 percent. 354 times .7 is 248. Very close to what John is making.

I agree with MSP about the need for torque. Everything I have read about automatic trans says they love lots of low end torque.

 

This will void my warranty right. I love my 7 year 100000 miles warranty. I want it so bad.

 

Ok.. that all makes sense... I was just surprised how much more torque vs hp the car makes vs the numbers I see for the GT...

I am going to do a couple more dyno pulls on Saturday... Haven't been on the dyno since I swapped out tires and wheels... Tire and wheels are lighter and shorter... Also should be an nice cool day...

 

It will only void the parts they can prove was caused by the aftermarket parts... So if my power window switch goes out they can't deny my warranty claim because I have N20... Now some dealers will try to blame everything on your aftermarket parts... some dealerships are more cool about things... like my dealership, who fixed my TPS even though my Zex was still completely installed in plain sight and still connected to the TPS!

 

Kenne Bell did a write up on tires. You'll probably get 3-4 more HP just for the tire swap.

 

Considering you have two bottles, perhaps a two stage system would be a possibility. Check this out:

Digiset Nitrous Timer

The Nitrous Time Delay Switch--DIGISET-- allows you to activate a first, second or third stage of nitrous (or other electronic device) as a function of time. Delay is easily set from 1/10th of a second to almost two minutes, in 1/10th second increments, by setting the small switches on the top of the timer. So, if your having a hard time launching and need to wait a few 1/10’s this is the timer you need. It also works great for activating a second stage.

http://nitrousdirect.com/electronics.html

 

I think if I can get some DRs for next year a lot of my traction problems will be solved.. LOL! I like my simple N2O setup... i think I would move to a S/C or Turbo before I go invest more in the nitrous...