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Originally posted by iwantastang@November 14, 2004, 9:42 PM
Personally, I think its a waste to do so. The reason Ford didn't put duals on the V6 is to give the two trim levels some unique features of each. IMO, i think its the cheesiest thing when V6 owners put duals on their cars, it makes me think that theyre too cheap to afford the GT.
On the other hand, yes you will gain some horsepower by doing it. It won't sound near as good as the V8 with duals, but it will sound different than stock.
Don't take this as me ripping you, just my opinion on it all.
Personally, I think its a waste to do so. The reason Ford didn't put duals on the V6 is to give the two trim levels some unique features of each. IMO, i think its the cheesiest thing when V6 owners put duals on their cars, it makes me think that theyre too cheap to afford the GT.
On the other hand, yes you will gain some horsepower by doing it. It won't sound near as good as the V8 with duals, but it will sound different than stock.
Don't take this as me ripping you, just my opinion on it all.
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Originally posted by chorpeac+November 15, 2004, 10:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chorpeac @ November 15, 2004, 10:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-iwantastang@November 14, 2004, 9:42 PM
Personally, I think its a waste to do so. The reason Ford didn't put duals on the V6 is to give the two trim levels some unique features of each. IMO, i think its the cheesiest thing when V6 owners put duals on their cars, it makes me think that theyre too cheap to afford the GT.
On the other hand, yes you will gain some horsepower by doing it. It won't sound near as good as the V8 with duals, but it will sound different than stock.
Don't take this as me ripping you, just my opinion on it all.
Personally, I think its a waste to do so. The reason Ford didn't put duals on the V6 is to give the two trim levels some unique features of each. IMO, i think its the cheesiest thing when V6 owners put duals on their cars, it makes me think that theyre too cheap to afford the GT.
On the other hand, yes you will gain some horsepower by doing it. It won't sound near as good as the V8 with duals, but it will sound different than stock.
Don't take this as me ripping you, just my opinion on it all.
Well Aaron, I must say that's about the stupidest response/comment I've heard in a long time. Did it ever occur to you that someone might actually prefer a V6 over a V8?
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I don't see how dual exhaust would hinder the performance or cause problems if you keep the diameter small enough. I wouldn't go over 2" for a sixer.
Here's the deal.... instead of waiting for someone to come out with an exhaust kit and charge you a kidney for it, go down to a muffler/exhaust shop and have them do it front to back for you. I've done that several times, and I've never paid more than $200 from Meineke. Buy your own muflers and cats so you don't pay their mark up, and have them bend in the pipe. I got my muffler on my Bronco that I just did 2 weeks ago from Summit, but you can go with another dealer for Flowmaster.... and I got the hi-flow cat from JC Whitney... it sounds silly sayin' that, but they had some cheap cats there.... universal, so all you need is the inlet/outlet diameters. Here's the deal... they might tell you that they can't legally do it because of the O2 sensors. that's absolute crap.... if you only have 1 O2 sensor, that means that they just have to put an equalizer tube BEFORE the cats and weld in the O2 boss on that equalizer, and your computer will work fine and you'll have no trouble with emissions.
Here's the deal.... instead of waiting for someone to come out with an exhaust kit and charge you a kidney for it, go down to a muffler/exhaust shop and have them do it front to back for you. I've done that several times, and I've never paid more than $200 from Meineke. Buy your own muflers and cats so you don't pay their mark up, and have them bend in the pipe. I got my muffler on my Bronco that I just did 2 weeks ago from Summit, but you can go with another dealer for Flowmaster.... and I got the hi-flow cat from JC Whitney... it sounds silly sayin' that, but they had some cheap cats there.... universal, so all you need is the inlet/outlet diameters. Here's the deal... they might tell you that they can't legally do it because of the O2 sensors. that's absolute crap.... if you only have 1 O2 sensor, that means that they just have to put an equalizer tube BEFORE the cats and weld in the O2 boss on that equalizer, and your computer will work fine and you'll have no trouble with emissions.
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Originally posted by Tsbird1994@November 14, 2004, 11:11 PM
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
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Originally posted by hirooky@November 14, 2004, 9:35 PM
Can u put dual exhaust on the V-6 and will it give u more horsepower???
or is it not worth doing?
Can u put dual exhaust on the V-6 and will it give u more horsepower???
or is it not worth doing?
You can cut after the catalytic converters and before the Y-pipe, then weld your new dual exhaust system made by the muffler shop or a 2.25" aftermarket cat-back made for the GT.In stock trim don't go bigger than 2.25" or you will lost plenty of backpressure. At first, with 2.25", you may feel a little lost of torque in low RPM's but a gain of HP and torque in upper RPM's.
And technically you don't loss nothing; you move the torque curve a little to the upper RPM's range. Later you may add a CAI, UD pullies, and you'll gain plenty of low RPM torque to compensate
So do it man, you'll gain HP, torque, and a better sound for your Stang.
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Originally posted by slegos888@November 14, 2004, 10:35 PM
why not just go with dumps liike most of the guys with 5.slows wont see any pipes!!!
why not just go with dumps liike most of the guys with 5.slows wont see any pipes!!!
This from a guy driving a split-6 
He probably thinks my car is slow because it is a Convertible GT with an auto. :nono:
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Originally posted by The Boss Hog+November 15, 2004, 8:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (The Boss Hog @ November 15, 2004, 8:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
yeah cheap illegitimate children....buy a GT, get the throaty V8
Originally posted by chorpeac@November 15, 2004, 10:07 AM
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@November 14, 2004, 9:42 PM
Personally, I think its a waste to do so. The reason Ford didn't put duals on the V6 is to give the two trim levels some unique features of each. IMO, i think its the cheesiest thing when V6 owners put duals on their cars, it makes me think that theyre too cheap to afford the GT.
On the other hand, yes you will gain some horsepower by doing it. It won't sound near as good as the V8 with duals, but it will sound different than stock.
Don't take this as me ripping you, just my opinion on it all.
Personally, I think its a waste to do so. The reason Ford didn't put duals on the V6 is to give the two trim levels some unique features of each. IMO, i think its the cheesiest thing when V6 owners put duals on their cars, it makes me think that theyre too cheap to afford the GT.
On the other hand, yes you will gain some horsepower by doing it. It won't sound near as good as the V8 with duals, but it will sound different than stock.
Don't take this as me ripping you, just my opinion on it all.
yeah cheap illegitimate children....buy a GT, get the throaty V8
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Seriously....that is one of the most ignorant responses I have ever heard on this board. We'd all love to have a shiny new GT in our garages someday, but some of us can't afford one right now cuz we have certain financial situations like school, raising a family, etc, that hinders us from affording one. Ever think about that? Hey CHORPEAC, why don't you go buy a F-body/Vette, cuz they're faster than your stupid GT.
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Backpressure is deffinitely an issue when you add a dual exhaust. I would talk to a good, and I stress GOOD, muffler shop or performance shop to see what they say.
And whatever you do don't cut off the mufflers.
And whatever you do don't cut off the mufflers.
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Originally posted by hirooky@November 14, 2004, 10:23 PM
I was thinking about leaving one tube hidden underneith to disguise it a little any thoughts?
I was thinking about leaving one tube hidden underneith to disguise it a little any thoughts?
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Originally posted by holderca1+November 15, 2004, 9:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (holderca1 @ November 15, 2004, 9:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tsbird1994@November 14, 2004, 11:11 PM
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
illegal to do what? cut the mufflers out? no it ain't.... I cut the mufflers out of both my '88 GT and my '98 GT and drove thru emissions test numerous times. Colorado has some of the stiffest emissions laws and nobody ever said anything except "that sounds sweet." As long as you retain the cats and the O2 sensors, you're not breaking any laws..... unless the Sherrif has a problem with the sound scaring his horse...
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Originally posted by holderca1+November 15, 2004, 9:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (holderca1 @ November 15, 2004, 9:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tsbird1994@November 14, 2004, 11:11 PM
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
No it's not
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Originally posted by Tsbird1994+November 15, 2004, 12:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tsbird1994 @ November 15, 2004, 12:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
You are aware that it is illegal to do that.
Originally posted by holderca1@November 15, 2004, 9:50 AM
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@November 14, 2004, 11:11 PM
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
You are aware that it is illegal to do that.
[/b][/quote]Actually in some places it is, like here in Cali, where our emissions laws are very very very restrictive.
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yeah... Cali is the exception to all the rules. There are, perhaps, idiots making the laws.... how much does a muffler do for the emissions?.... not much at all, I'm thinkin'. If you have the stock cats on there, the mufflers aren't really gonna slow up the exhaust enough to spend more time in the catallytic converter. And, if you put high flow cats on there and high flow mufflers, you're probably going to get more hydrocarbons in your tests than if you just left the stock cats on and took the mufflers completely out. I think the tree huggers that drive their pollutin' azz early 80s Volvos aught to to do a little more homework before makin' laws like reqiring mufflers. It's a mute point, though...
I'm in now way doggin' you, Buddy....
Bill, if you live in a state that allows you to run w/o mufflers..... go for it. However, I have no idea what the sixer will sound like w/o mufflers... all I can say is that is sounded beefy with my 5.0, and beefy with my 4.6... good times.
I'm in now way doggin' you, Buddy....
Bill, if you live in a state that allows you to run w/o mufflers..... go for it. However, I have no idea what the sixer will sound like w/o mufflers... all I can say is that is sounded beefy with my 5.0, and beefy with my 4.6... good times.
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Originally posted by Tsbird1994+November 15, 2004, 12:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tsbird1994 @ November 15, 2004, 12:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
You are aware that it is illegal to do that.
Originally posted by holderca1@November 15, 2004, 9:50 AM
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@November 14, 2004, 11:11 PM
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
you don't need to add duals... most times it's over kill cuz like DUSTINDU4 said.... it loses back pressure. There's NO NEED for a stock V6 to have a 2.5" Dual exhaust. I thought about addig a custom dual exhaust to me Tbird's V6 and after about a year of research I found that most times it's un necessary. I noticed improved performance from simply cutting the muffler off
Crazy ... yes. But it opened up the exhaust a little, but it didn't cause a loss of back pressure
You are aware that it is illegal to do that.
[/b][/quote]It's not an emission issue, it's a noise pollution issue. Most states have laws against running a vehicle without a muffler including California, Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Ohio, Kentucky, ect... How well is it enforced? Probably just as well as the window tinting laws. So if you can get away with it, by all means.
Just fyi, but it is illegal in some places to honk your horn when it is not used for a danger warner. A guy I know honked at the car in front of him for not going at a green light, the cop behind him proceeded to pull him over and give him a ticket. This was in Knoxville, TN I believe, or somewhere near there.
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Mufflers aren't part of the actual emissions... they control the noise of the vehicle. So emissions wise ... taking the muffler(s) out won't hurt anything. I don't think it's illegal in NY (i'm not sure about other states), and even if it is... I have the muffler that I can weld back on when I go for inspection B) :P 
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Originally posted by Badandy@November 15, 2004, 8:42 AM
cool it down a little slegos.
cool it down a little slegos.
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I agree on the idea of getting an exhaust shop to hook you up with some 2" piping. I imagine the 6 has a y pipe kind of thing going on, but I'm not sure. does anyone have a shot of the 6 from below, so we can see how it's routed?
