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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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Speaking of Steeda, any reason their mounts weren't mentioned??

http://www.steeda.com/products/steed...ine_mounts.php



And here's their radiator support that allows the AR bar use:

http://www.steeda.com/products/light...pport_s197.php



BMR K member:



http://www.bmrfabrication.com/2005MustangCHASSIS.htm
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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The only reason why I didn't mention the Steeda Motor Mounts is B/C you can find the same mounts CHEAPER other places!!!! But for the Radiator support; that is a great piece (It seems)....
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jaguarking11
IMHO the k-member is an awesome thing to put on and the price isnt too bad. But if you keep the stock lower control arms think twice. I personally would buy the k-member and lower control amrs with urathane bushings.

Should stiffen up the front end quite a bit, reduce weight and you can get the k-member with motor mounts already on it that drop the engine 1/2 inch. Now if I could find a radiator support that has the front sway bar mounts on it that would be sweet.

But as my budget allows, my next mods right now will be uca right away then koni yellow shocks and sway bars. I just need to find a set of springs that work with what I want to do. I dont want to drop the front at all, the rear drop would be max 1/2 inch. I dont want necesarily harder springs, as I feel the spring rate of the stockers is nice, but slightly harder would not be bad.

In any case, give sam a call.
I am sorry for the idiotic question but when you mention replacing the lower control arms in front are you talking about replacing the A-ARMS????

Also why do you think it is necessary (maybe not necessary, but RECOMMENDED) that I replace the A-arms at the same time????
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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I know BMR has had issues with the poly bushing staying together on the A-arms in anything more than a drag race application so I would not really consider that a necessity!
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PIKE2244
The only reason why I didn't mention the Steeda Motor Mounts is B/C you can find the same mounts CHEAPER other places!!!! But for the Radiator support; that is a great piece (It seems)....
There was a similar thread here in the past, and SteedaGus chimed in then to say their's was NOT the same and was much better. I was rather surprised he'd make such a claim...
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CO_VaporGT_09
There was a similar thread here in the past, and SteedaGus chimed in then to say their's was NOT the same and was much better. I was rather surprised he'd make such a claim...
I COMPLETELY AGREE... I mean if it is made out of the same material; how is it not the same??? I mean maybe STEEDA's is made w/ LOVE!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by EagleStroker
I know BMR has had issues with the poly bushing staying together on the A-arms in anything more than a drag race application so I would not really consider that a necessity!
OK, so If that is true (which my car is a DD as well) I DON'T WANT TO GET THEM!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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When I do the k-member, I will do the lower a-arms....Sorry about the confusion... I was a bit sleepy, been doing 16hour stints at work, with the ot maybe ill have enough cash for some mods.

Reasoning is simple though, the lower a-arms go through allot of flex, and im sure bmr figured out the issues by now, they have been around for ages. The lower a-arms also weigh a bunch, with tubular ones you reduce partial unsprung weight as well as sprung weight. Not to mention the added stiffness and control.

As for BMR having issues with the lower a-arms I saw a thread somewhere about that. Seems they redesigned the bushings or something, but dont quote me on this. In either case, stamped a-arms is not exactly my idea of high performance. With the rad support and kmember and a-arms, the whole thing should drop around 60lb+ off the nose of this thing.

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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jaguarking11
When I do the k-member, I will do the lower a-arms....Sorry about the confusion... I was a bit sleepy, been doing 16hour stints at work, with the ot maybe ill have enough cash for some mods.

Reasoning is simple though, the lower a-arms go through allot of flex, and im sure bmr figured out the issues by now, they have been around for ages. The lower a-arms also weigh a bunch, with tubular ones you reduce partial unsprung weight as well as sprung weight. Not to mention the added stiffness and control.

As for BMR having issues with the lower a-arms I saw a thread somewhere about that. Seems they redesigned the bushings or something, but dont quote me on this. In either case, stamped a-arms is not exactly my idea of high performance. With the rad support and kmember and a-arms, the whole thing should drop around 60lb+ off the nose of this thing.
I hate to ask but if you do find anything out concrete about the BMR A-Arms will you please let me know; I hate this (I really don't) but my list when I was just thinking of replacing the Headers is growing fast!!!! Hahaha
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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And in case you are serious about the BMR arms, here is a great deal on a new set... $299 shipped
http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25780
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Doogie
And in case you are serious about the BMR arms, here is a great deal on a new set... $299 shipped
http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25780
Man Thank you so much!!!! I am not sure if I am going w/ the adjustable ones but Thanks
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jaguarking11
Reasoning is simple though, the lower a-arms go through allot of flex, and im sure bmr figured out the issues by now, they have been around for ages. The lower a-arms also weigh a bunch, with tubular ones you reduce partial unsprung weight as well as sprung weight. Not to mention the added stiffness and control.

As for BMR having issues with the lower a-arms I saw a thread somewhere about that. Seems they redesigned the bushings or something, but dont quote me on this. In either case, stamped a-arms is not exactly my idea of high performance. With the rad support and kmember and a-arms, the whole thing should drop around 60lb+ off the nose of this thing.
I wouldn't touch their front arms (technically a reverse L, not an A) for anything other than a dedicated drag car. After going through a few redesigns after failures, there was a recent failure of one on an AI car at the NASA nationals this year. Scary stuff. True, we don't know how much, if any, abuse it got on the track. However, in many ways street use is harder on them than track use--more hours in use, hitting potholes and bridge intersections frequently, rougher roads, etc...

The stock arms are a good design, reasonably light, and very durable. There's a reason why the reputable *engineering* companies for road racing suspension parts haven't rushed to produce replacement arms for the S197, and the K-members are just starting to trickle into the market.

Just another opinion...
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Import-Slaya
I wouldn't touch their front arms (technically a reverse L, not an A) for anything other than a dedicated drag car.

Just another opinion...
I don't know, Slaya, taking you serious with that avatar showing isn't so easy We all know it was those stock A arms on your car that caused the flip and roll, right?

Just kidding ... I wouldn't do the aftermarket K or LCAs, personally, maybe the Steeda radiator piece would be fine for a bit of weight savings, but considering the weight and G forces these pieces endure, the more mass and beefiness the better, I say. Just replace the bushings, or go all out with the Griggs SLA coil over conversion system.

http://www.griggsracing.com/index.ph...4309_4320_3060

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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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I don't know what I am going to do???? I guess every time I lean one way I start thinking it would be better to go the other way... MAN I AM SO TORN.....

And I don't wanna replace the Radiator support w/ the Steeda one b/c I wanna keep my Front Sway....

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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PIKE2244
And I don't wanna replace the Radiator support w/ the Steeda one b/c I wanna keep my Front Sway....
That statement does make a lot of sense as the Steeda radiator support is the only one that allows you to continue using a front swar bar.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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The Steeda piece is the only lightweight support on the market that allows you to retain the sway bar. Just call Sam!
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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I understand it says you can keep it but I am a bit skeptical... I would like to talk to someone who is running one...
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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A lot of people are running them, I have one of those sitting on the shelf as well! Steeda is a reputable company what would they stand to gain from false advertising?
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleStroker
A lot of people are running them, I have one of those sitting on the shelf as well! Steeda is a reputable company what would they stand to gain from false advertising?
Trust me when I say "I know 1st hand Steeda products are top notch", every single piece of Suspension components on my car are Steeda...

So I guess I should rephrase my question: Is it ok to run the Replacement radiator support every day??? My car is a DD so I need it to hold up to everyday abuse!!!!!
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PIKE2244
Trust me when I say "I know 1st hand Steeda products are top notch", every single piece of Suspension components on my car are Steeda...

So I guess I should rephrase my question: Is it ok to run the Replacement radiator support every day??? My car is a DD so I need it to hold up to everyday abuse!!!!!
The Steeda radiator support was made with the intention of being used in a high performance application so why wouldn't it hold up on your trip to the grocery store?
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