Saw this on the header. Thanks Brad.

http://www.ultimate-racing.com/Products/Fo...TTurboKit.shtml

 

WOW, Nicely done

 

Holy hot Mustangs Batman! That is NICE! Daddy likey.....

 

Hey guys,

Perfect time for me to chime in and make my first post on this forum.

Let me first introduce myself as Darryl from Ultimate Racing. We are a performance fabrication company out of Toronto, Canada. Over the years, we've developed a reputation in the import industry as being turbocharging specialists.

If you guys have a moment, I encourage everyone to visit our website and have a look around. www.ultimate-racing.com

Now on to the Mustang...

Our Twin Turbo kit for the 2005 Mustang GT is currently under development. At the moment, we are targetting 450rwhp @ 7-8psi of boost pressure as our goal.

Our Turbo Kits are well known for being complete. Proper fuel and ignition management has always been something we've been praised on. We include everything from upgraded fuel injectors right down to ECM programming. You won't find FMU's in any of our kits.

Here is a tentative list of components and packages we hope to offer:

- Mitsubishi Turbocharger (x2)
- TiAL 38mm External Wastegate (x2)
- Front Mount Intercooler with Polished Endtanks
- HKS Super Sequential Blow-Off Valve
- Polished Stainless Steel Intercooler Piping
- Turbocharger Up-Pipe (x2)
- Polished Stainless Steel Air Intake Pipe (x2)
- K&N Cone Air Filters (x2)
- Upgraded Fuel Injectors (x8)
- Stainless Steel Downpipe (x2)
- Turbo Oil Scavenge Pump
- SCT Tuning Xcalibration ECM Reprogrammer with pretuned maps (option)
- All Hoses, Lines, Clamps, Fittings, etc

Available Packages:

Smog Legal Twin Turbo Kit (Complete)
- Complete Twin Turbo Kit
- High-flow catted downpipes
- Wastegate dumps plumbed back into downpipes
- SCT Tuning Xcalibration ECM Reprogrammer (pretuned maps included)

Smog Legal Twin Turbo Kit (For Professional Tuners)
- Complete Twin Turbo Kit
- High-flow catted downpipes
- Wastegate dumps plumbed back into downpipes
- No engine management included

Off-Road Twin Turbo Kit (Complete)
- Complete Twin Turbo Kit
- Catless downpipes
- Wastegate dumps to open atmosphere
- SCT Tuning Xcalibration ECM Reprogrammer (pretuned maps included)

Off-Road Twin Turbo Kit (For Professional Tuners)
- Complete Twin Turbo Kit
- Catless downpipes
- Wastegate dumps to open atmosphere
- No engine management included

Of course, we are still in the development phase so some of these parts may change. I will be updating everyone here with news and pictures of our progress .

If anyone has questions, feel free to post them here, email me, or call me up at the shop!

Thanks guys!

Darryl

 

You are certainly a welcome addition Darryl! Keep us updated...

John

 

Will your kits be CARB legal? Thanks!

 

I am going to say "No" for now. CARB exemption is a very tough thing to qualify for when dealing with high horsepower kits. One rule is that the factory cats MUST be retained in order for it to qualify for CARB exemption. Unfortunately, Ford didn't flange the cats themselves, so they must be removed with the factory Y-Pipe. All variations of our kit require the factory cats to be removed. My only suggestion would be to opt for our high-flow cat option. Our off-road kits definitely will not pass as the external wastegates will be dumping to open atmosphere.

Darryl

 

Welcome Darryl.

 

I am going to say "No" for now. CARB exemption is a very tough thing to qualify for when dealing with high horsepower kits. One rule is that the factory cats MUST be retained in order for it to qualify for CARB exemption. Unfortunately, Ford didn't flange the cats themselves, so they must be removed with the factory Y-Pipe. All variations of our kit require the factory cats to be removed. My only suggestion would be to opt for our high-flow cat option. Our off-road kits definitely will not pass as the external wastegates will be dumping to open atmosphere.

Darryl [/b][/quote]
Darryl,

I am not too familiar w/ turbos, esp w/ mustangs. Are these kits, the smog legal ones, made for drag racing primarily or more for street use? How is driving a tubro car different than say a centrifugal supercharged car? Do you have to wait for the rmp's to go up and then power comes on? I have heard you need the tubro to "spool up" to get real power. Is that why tubro's do better in high-reving imports? Do turbos put the same amt of additional stress as would a supercharger at 7-8psi on the engines? I really do not know that is why I am asking.

Thanks
Cree

 

is that the final placement of the turbo's they seem very low. how will you deal with the oil return also have you thought about a single turbo for cheaper kits
looks very good so far

ps if you have not finshed the kit yet what body orifice did you pull the 450rwhp numbers from you have posted on you website?

 

these guys are the real deal!!!
if they can make 11's car out of 4bangers(that dont brake down,everyday),they should be able to handle a v8.......

 

Took the words right from my mouth

 

Very interesting!
The turbo placement looks good to me. Its gotta be at least a couple inches higher than the oil pan by the pics. The only way you will scrape those is if you lose the pan. Im curious about the oil return also.
Some other sc company might have been KB was also claiming 450rwhp with their kit. Might just be the magic # that everyone is shooting for.
I can wait to see the finished product. Pricing would be nice too.

 

creedog

These kits will be good for street and strip use. Daily driving should remian unaffected with the turbochargers. Unlike a supercharger system that tends to give a good amount of parasitic draw on accel and decel. With a properly tuned and configured turbo system there won't be any sacrifices. Spool up (or turbo lag) is overrated. With a properly mapped turbocharger, boost onset can virtually be anywhere you want it along the powerband. Superchargers are driven by a belt. The faster the motor turns, the faster the supercharger spools. Boost may be built early, but full boost isn't normally seen til later in the powerband. Since turbochargers work off of wasted exhaust gases, full boost can be achieved as early as late 2000rpm range! That boost pressure is then sustained (via wastegate) all the way to redline. For the most part, the power WILL be there when you want it to be. In terms of stress on the motor, this all depends on what you consider stress. 7psi from Supercharger X is not the same as 7psi from Turbocharger X. It all comes down to CFM and compressor efficiency. Both systems may be running the same boost pressure, however one charger may be out-flowing the other. But back to superchargers being belt driven, I'd have to say that the added rotational mass definitely adds to the motor stress, hence the parasitic draw on accel and decel. It's almost like having air conditioning on full time.

Darryl

 

corey796 and 05_John

The turbochargers are hung low for three reasons.

1) We are adapting the turbochargers to the factory exhaust manifolds to help keep the kit's price tag low

2) There's absolutely no space to hang the turbochargers elsewhere

3) Near the bottom, the turbochargers will get the best amount of outside cooling

Since the turbochargers hang as low as they do, they cannot efficiently drain oil as the engine's oil level will be above the turbo's oil return (oil return drains by gravity). For this, we will be manufacturing a small oil sump for both turbo's to return their oil to. From there, an electric oil scavenging pump will pickup the oil and return it back to the motor.

We thought about a single turbo system at first. Problem is, there isn't a single turbocharger large enough to support the 4.6L displacement and still be effiecient at 7-8psi. For a setup designed to run higher boost levels, a single turbo becomes more realistic.

450rwhp is a guesstimate based on our experience turbocharging cars. FYI, we're seldomly far off B)

Darryl

 

Very informative. Thanks Darryl. I have never driven a car with 450 HP. I am excited for whoever gets one of these babies!!!

 

IF the price is right, it could be many of us.....(fingers crossed)....

 

I am stoked, I am very intresed in the stats and pricing, as I am sure most of us are

-Bryan

 

hmmm it has Mitsubishi Turbochargers

 

What does that mean ? Bad/Good/other ? I have never had one so this is all good info.

-Bryan