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Traction Control System

Old Oct 3, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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Does the Traction Control System(TCS) effect performance? When WOT'in is it better to turn it off?

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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I have me plus three other "Full" grown men in my car. I was able to do a nice burnout with no problem (TC was on).
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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How can you do a burnout with tc on? wouldnt it kill the power to the wheels?
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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the traction control on the 05 is not like the traction control systems on past mustangs. It doesn't kick in very often (almost never during takeoff except in wet or icey conditions) and when it kicks in you know it (you can feel it and it says it on the system display). It also will kick in during the 1-2 shift during hard acelleration because the car WILL scratch the tires :-) . It allows for the driver to play around with burnouts and puller slides without kicking in. Burnouts with the TCS on are possible and the system doesn't even kick in or drain power....it knows that you are goofing off. I love the TCS in the 05. Its perfection it knows when you are playing and when you are not and activates when you need it (primarily when the car is rolling....not during takeoff). So let the burnouts begin!!!!
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by Iwanta05@October 5, 2005, 3:18 PM
the traction control on the 05 is not like the traction control systems on past mustangs. It doesn't kick in very often (almost never during takeoff except in wet or icey conditions) and when it kicks in you know it (you can feel it and it says it on the system display). It also will kick in during the 1-2 shift during hard acelleration because the car WILL scratch the tires :-) . It allows for the driver to play around with burnouts and puller slides without kicking in. Burnouts with the TCS on are possible and the system doesn't even kick in or drain power....it knows that you are goofing off. I love the TCS in the 05. Its perfection it knows when you are playing and when you are not and activates when you need it (primarily when the car is rolling....not during takeoff). So let the burnouts begin!!!!
wow if you think the TC in the 05 mustang is perfection dont ever drive a car with a good TC setup it will ruin your immage of perfection in 2 secounds. I think the TC sucks and it is part of my daily driving experiance to get in the car turn it on and hit the TC button to turn it off.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by TURBO 05@October 7, 2005, 7:07 PM
it is part of my daily driving experiance to get in the car turn it on and hit the TC button to turn it off.
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1. Turn car on
2. Turn radar detector on
3. Turn TC off
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Turn if off under normal conditions.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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I'm no expert in the "TC" area, but the only time I use it (or when it kicks in), is while I'm playing in the rain on wet roads. I did some experimenting so I would get used to how it works, when it kicks in, noises, surges, slippage, traction, squirreliness, etc.

I have an automatic and love the way it kicks in when I "nail it" to pass on the German roads. Because I got used to it kicking in and how it efeects the car, I am now condident and "keep my foot in it" during a pass, while the TC is blinking and doing its thing.

Keep in mind that the normal speed limit on our roads here are 62 mph (100 kph). So I usually kick it into passing gear around 60 mph and get up to 80 mph during a pass.

My two cents - experiment with it and learn the feel of it, so you don't freak out when it happens. Find the limitations, so you don't lose control in a real situation.

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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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by design, there is enough slip worked into the system to allow for smokey burnouts -- even with traction on....to really light it up and make her break loose -- turn TCS off ---

turn TCS off and O/D off to launch in dry conditions and when she almost to hit third, hit the O/D on....
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Stangette@October 11, 2005, 8:41 AM
by design, there is enough slip worked into the system to allow for smokey burnouts -- even with traction on....to really light it up and make her break loose -- turn TCS off ---

I must disagree completely. If what you are saying is true, then there must be two kinds of TCS in the 05's, because mine kills the engine at the slightest hint of tire spin. There is no way I can do a burnout with it on... been there, done that. I have done a couple hundred burnouts at the track (and elsewhere ) with mine, and if I somehow forget to turn it off, the engine lays over in about 1/10 a second flat. And it also craps out during a WOT 1-2 shift. And that is with an automatic trans.

I shut the dam TCS as soon as I start the car about 99% of the time.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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I think there is a misunderstanding about what a burnout is.

If you mean standing still while the rear tires spin, then no, you can't do that with the TCS on.

If you mean screeching, spinning tires while accelerating, then yes you may indeed do so with TCS on.

This is my first rear drive car, and after hearing the complaints that my friend, a Camaro owner, has about her traction control, I was worried. But the system in the Mustang is very good in comparison. It even seems to kick in sooner when the wheels are turned. Very smart indeed.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by AWmustang@October 13, 2005, 3:50 PM
I think there is a misunderstanding about what a burnout is.

If you mean standing still while the rear tires spin, then no, you can't do that with the TCS on.

If you mean screeching, spinning tires while accelerating, then yes you may indeed do so with TCS on.
This is what I consider a burnout: http://www.2005stang.com/gallery/albums/us...30/MOV04681.MPG

"screeching, spinning tires while accelerating" is not a burnout, IMO.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Well Don, mine doesn't do that. I can't do your kind of burnouts in it with it on (I accidentally tried once), but taking off from a dead stop, they'll spin, slide a little sideways and the T/C doesn't come on.

I've only seen it activate a couple of times in mine, and most times I can get her butt out when coming out of my neiborhood on to the main road.

Here's the scary part, When I was on my "Labor Day Uber Road Trip" it had started raining while I was on the Indian reservation, and I went around a corner at a stop light and got completely sideways with T/C on and it never activated. I wasn't even goosing it, it was just fresh rain on a slick road. It was supposed to work then...it didn't :scratch:
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by SixtySix@October 21, 2005, 12:05 AM
Well Don, mine doesn't do that. I can't do your kind of burnouts in it with it on (I accidentally tried once), but taking off from a dead stop, they'll spin, slide a little sideways and the T/C doesn't come on.

I've only seen it activate a couple of times in mine, and most times I can get her butt out when coming out of my neiborhood on to the main road.

Here's the scary part, When I was on my "Labor Day Uber Road Trip" it had started raining while I was on the Indian reservation, and I went around a corner at a stop light and got completely sideways with T/C on and it never activated. I wasn't even goosing it, it was just fresh rain on a slick road. It was supposed to work then...it didn't :scratch:
Tony,

That doesn't sound right, I'll hear mine come on often when fooling around and "Gooseing" it. It should definitly "kick in" when you nail it on a wet surface.

Tom
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by don_w@October 12, 2005, 10:40 PM
I must disagree completely. If what you are saying is true, then there must be two kinds of TCS in the 05's, because mine kills the engine at the slightest hint of tire spin. There is no way I can do a burnout with it on... been there, done that. I have done a couple hundred burnouts at the track (and elsewhere ) with mine, and if I somehow forget to turn it off, the engine lays over in about 1/10 a second flat. And it also craps out during a WOT 1-2 shift. And that is with an automatic trans.

I shut the dam TCS as soon as I start the car about 99% of the time.
darn straight...turn it off!!!!
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