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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Sway Bar Delete

I am considering one of these but I wondering if anyone had one of these and if it hurts the handling of your car.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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I didnt notice that much difference at all with my DD.....if you really take turns hard you might notice the difference though.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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I am considering one of these but I wondering if anyone had one of these and if it hurts the handling of your car.
Not a very good idea for a highway driver. Fine for drag racing 1/8 or 1/4 mile. For road you will lose the positive stability of some amount of understeer. The car will either have very little understeer or be well into oversteer. Of course it looks cool and dazzles you friends when it goes into oversteer, but its a lot harder to keep the car on the road ... and it is less safe, particularly if you do not correct it instantly.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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I removed the front one, it hurts handling and there is a lot more roll in the turns. If you do it, just be careful with going through the turns under power.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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I did it and really don't notice a difference. I guess it's a matter of how hard you push the car and how aware you are of small changes.

If your not sure just remove your swaybar and see how you like it. If it's ok for you then go ahead and by the bar.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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True, I put mine through a rigorous test to see the difference. I was taking turns under high rpms to see the difference. On daily driving, you should be fine.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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if you want an all around performer (IE: like for road racing and drag racing) then it is not worth it but if it is just for 1/4 mile times and stop light to stop light performance then go for it
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Boy, lots of tolerance out there for at risk modifications.

You are either misinformed or ... well I guess ignorance is bliss for some people.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rygenstormlocke
True, I put mine through a rigorous test to see the difference. I was taking turns under high rpms to see the difference. On daily driving, you should be fine.
Sure normal street driving, not taking turns fast, etc. ... then what do you do when that emergency situation presents its self ... you are doing 70 MPH, suddenly there is a multiple car wreck in front of you presenting an obstacle in front and you can't possibly stop, one to the left and another to the right, but if you can swerve under braking and make that small opening between the one on the right and the one on the center you avoid a head on collision, but no. OH CRAP! The car oversteers, no time to make a correction, then bam you manage to clobber two of the obstructions, your car is totaled and St. peter is beginning to have a discussion with you ... RIP.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RadBOSS
Sure normal street driving, not taking turns fast, etc. ... then what do you do when that emergency situation presents its self ... you are doing 70 MPH, suddenly there is a multiple car wreck in front of you presenting an obstacle in front and you can't possibly stop, one to the left and another to the right, but if you can swerve under braking and make that small opening between the one on the right and the one on the center you avoid a head on collision, but no. OH CRAP! The car oversteers, no time to make a correction, then bam you manage to clobber two of the obstructions, your car is totaled and St. peter is beginning to have a discussion with you ... RIP.
Have you driven the car without the front swaybar? It's really not that big of a difference. Your making it sound like the handling will be totally compromised. I'm willing to bet If I let you drive two cars one with the swaybar one without you'd never know. Unless of course your some super auto x guy that feels the slighest changes. The average joe won't notice IMO.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LEO_06GT
Have you driven the car without the front swaybar? It's really not that big of a difference. Your making it sound like the handling will be totally compromised. I'm willing to bet If I let you drive two cars one with the swaybar one without you'd never know. Unless of course your some super auto x guy that feels the slighest changes. The average joe won't notice IMO.
I guess the average joe doesn't drive like me.
Then again, the average joe doesn't have a g-force meter on the dash.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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The average Joe, even if her or she thinks they are a performance driver probably would not know until they reached the limit ... and then it will be too late to figure out or understand what is happening. A car that oversteers is considered dynamically unstable. A car that understeers is dynamically stable. A car that has severe understeer will be a pig to drive and will not be able to corner well. A car with mild oversteer will be a handful to drive. There are forms of racing (dirt track, rally, etc.) that look like oversteer set up, but the fact is the driving technique is to toss the rear out, the chassis set up is still to some degree of understeer. By taking off the front swaybar, one has degraded the vehicle handling. There is then more weight transfer to the outer rear tire, and because there in now less weight transfer to the front it has less bite and therfore will not corner or handle as well because the weight transfer bias is to the rear. Except for drag racing application, this is a unintellgent modification for the average or any Joe (IMO).

But the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.



Originally Posted by LEO_06GT
Have you driven the car without the front swaybar? It's really not that big of a difference. Your making it sound like the handling will be totally compromised. I'm willing to bet If I let you drive two cars one with the swaybar one without you'd never know. Unless of course your some super auto x guy that feels the slighest changes. The average joe won't notice IMO.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Mine's been gone for well over a year, and 15,000 miles. I don't miss it at all. BUT... I'm not a corner carver guy.
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