State Inspections and Tuning
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8/4/07, 12:38 PM
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Ok, I'm going to calmly, and constructively explain.
1. I know what you were refering to, every state has two inspections for metro areas. It's not a special thing for PA.
2. Rear 02 sensors are not turned off on a car that only has a CAI. Turning off rear 02's only happens when cars have LT (the rear 02's aren't even there). Even further, turned off rear 02's will not cause a car to fail. They look to see if you have any outstanding OBDII codes. No codes? Pass.
I get the same scan here in Texas. I went in to a shop that had been busted recently for selling illegal stickers so it was under supervision by the state (definatly not going to cut me any slack). Car has long tubes, nitrous, obviously tuned, etc...
Passed with flying colors. I even had illegal tint on my car and I still passed the safety inspection.
1. I know what you were refering to, every state has two inspections for metro areas. It's not a special thing for PA.
2. Rear 02 sensors are not turned off on a car that only has a CAI. Turning off rear 02's only happens when cars have LT (the rear 02's aren't even there). Even further, turned off rear 02's will not cause a car to fail. They look to see if you have any outstanding OBDII codes. No codes? Pass.
I get the same scan here in Texas. I went in to a shop that had been busted recently for selling illegal stickers so it was under supervision by the state (definatly not going to cut me any slack). Car has long tubes, nitrous, obviously tuned, etc...
Passed with flying colors. I even had illegal tint on my car and I still passed the safety inspection.
once again... As Doug turns off the rear 02 sensors on all his program tunes, unless the customer requests otherwise...And if you choose not to accept that? Then you're more than welcome to ask Doug yourself and perhaps in Texas, all they look for are OBDII codes, but here in PA! they still also use sniffers in addition to scanning the OBDII..Therefore, if the sniff test fails? then so does the car, it's as plain and simple as that... And btw: Doug will also confirm that his program tunes aren't designed for passing emission requirements, as well...
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8/4/07, 12:42 PM
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8/4/07, 12:44 PM
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So just what was that remark of taking the high road meant for then? As for young man is concerned, well if you consider 49 as being some youngster or something? then I don't know what else to tell you... However, just as ROBK!!! I will not condone anybody that comes into this forum and insults another member's intelligence, regardless of whatever their reasons may happen to be...Therefore, if you wish to consider this as not knowing what I speak of? then so be it, Scott!
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8/4/07, 12:52 PM
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8/4/07, 01:08 PM
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You guys need to go have a beer and relax. Name calling isn't a good thing and is never going to give anyone a good feeling about the person who posted it. Just remember that opinions are like a-holes and everyone has one, some are just bigger than others. JMO~
8/4/07, 01:30 PM
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8/4/07, 01:33 PM
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I'm going to selfishly try to get this thread back on topic. Here in North Cackalacky we have a safety and Emissions (OBDII) inspection. Here were my results that got me a "Not Ready Rejection"
Misfire - Ready
Fuel System - Ready
Comprehensive Component - Ready
Catalyst - Not ready
Heated catalyst - not available
Evaporative system - Ready
Secondary Air System - not available
A/C System - not available
O2 Sensor - Not ready
O2 sensor heater - Not ready
EGR System - Not available
I don't know what all those mean but I do know that if you get more than one "not ready" your car is rejected. It doesn't fail but you don't get your sticker.
Like I said earlier I'm running a JLTII CAI and Doug's 93 Race Tune.
I'm wondering if I can load the factory tune w/o changing the CAI for the 15 mile round trip for inspection. What does everyone think?
Can Doug "fix" my tune so it passes? I wonder what that would do to performance? Obviously a question for Doug.
My gut feeling is that I should restore to stock for the inspection. PIA.
Misfire - Ready
Fuel System - Ready
Comprehensive Component - Ready
Catalyst - Not ready
Heated catalyst - not available
Evaporative system - Ready
Secondary Air System - not available
A/C System - not available
O2 Sensor - Not ready
O2 sensor heater - Not ready
EGR System - Not available
I don't know what all those mean but I do know that if you get more than one "not ready" your car is rejected. It doesn't fail but you don't get your sticker.
Like I said earlier I'm running a JLTII CAI and Doug's 93 Race Tune.
I'm wondering if I can load the factory tune w/o changing the CAI for the 15 mile round trip for inspection. What does everyone think?
Can Doug "fix" my tune so it passes? I wonder what that would do to performance? Obviously a question for Doug.
My gut feeling is that I should restore to stock for the inspection. PIA.
8/4/07, 02:22 PM
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I'm going to selfishly try to get this thread back on topic. Here in North Cackalacky we have a safety and Emissions (OBDII) inspection. Here were my results that got me a "Not Ready Rejection"
Misfire - Ready
Fuel System - Ready
Comprehensive Component - Ready
Catalyst - Not ready
Heated catalyst - not available
Evaporative system - Ready
Secondary Air System - not available
A/C System - not available
O2 Sensor - Not ready
O2 sensor heater - Not ready
EGR System - Not available
I don't know what all those mean but I do know that if you get more than one "not ready" your car is rejected. It doesn't fail but you don't get your sticker.
Like I said earlier I'm running a JLTII CAI and Doug's 93 Race Tune.
I'm wondering if I can load the factory tune w/o changing the CAI for the 15 mile round trip for inspection. What does everyone think?
Can Doug "fix" my tune so it passes? I wonder what that would do to performance? Obviously a question for Doug.
My gut feeling is that I should restore to stock for the inspection. PIA.
Misfire - Ready
Fuel System - Ready
Comprehensive Component - Ready
Catalyst - Not ready
Heated catalyst - not available
Evaporative system - Ready
Secondary Air System - not available
A/C System - not available
O2 Sensor - Not ready
O2 sensor heater - Not ready
EGR System - Not available
I don't know what all those mean but I do know that if you get more than one "not ready" your car is rejected. It doesn't fail but you don't get your sticker.
Like I said earlier I'm running a JLTII CAI and Doug's 93 Race Tune.
I'm wondering if I can load the factory tune w/o changing the CAI for the 15 mile round trip for inspection. What does everyone think?
Can Doug "fix" my tune so it passes? I wonder what that would do to performance? Obviously a question for Doug.
My gut feeling is that I should restore to stock for the inspection. PIA.
My two cents based on what i've been told...
John
8/4/07, 02:37 PM
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I was told that disconnecting the battery or uploading ANY tune, including the factory tune, resets all these parameters and you need to do some driving to get them to get enough data stored for each. I don't think it's the actual tune, but the fact a tune has been uploaded and cleared all the codes. That's what I was told today when mine failed. I've driven my car very little since a tune was uploaded and apparently not enough codes had passing values...
My two cents based on what i've been told...
John
My two cents based on what i've been told...
John
8/4/07, 02:53 PM
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"The car needs to run its emissions monitor tests and it most likely hasnt run them all. They arent looking for codes, they are looking for the monitor tests to complete.
If you stop in sometime I can check to see what monitors have run or have yet to run. Conditions have to be perfect for some of them to run."
8/4/07, 03:32 PM
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I went thru this back in December on my car.
Doug does turn off the sensors and they will fail you here in Houston if more than 2 are showing not ready.
Here's the proof.
I hope this will help clear some things up for all.
I resolved my issue by finding a local tuner to do a custom tune and not turning off any of the sensors.
P.S.
I also found that the drive cycle on my car was very short.
I went with the tech from Ford that was checking it out and it reset at 6 miles.
Disclaimer:
That doesn't mean it is the same for all cars and driving conditions.
Doug does turn off the sensors and they will fail you here in Houston if more than 2 are showing not ready.
Here's the proof.
I hope this will help clear some things up for all.
I resolved my issue by finding a local tuner to do a custom tune and not turning off any of the sensors.
P.S.
I also found that the drive cycle on my car was very short.
I went with the tech from Ford that was checking it out and it reset at 6 miles.
Disclaimer:
That doesn't mean it is the same for all cars and driving conditions.
8/4/07, 04:20 PM
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8/4/07, 04:51 PM
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8/4/07, 08:09 PM
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I have tunes from three different companies: Bamachips, Modular Depot, and Tunable Induction. With the MD and TI tunes the car feels virtually stock at less than wide open throttle. With either of Doug's tunes (Performance or Race), part throttle response is dramatically better, especially on the Race tune, and the car feels much faster and more enjoyable to drive. With the MD and TI tunes I could probably let it idle in a closed garage for half an hour and live to tell the story. With Doug's tunes the exhaust stinks to high heaven. Now I know why.
8/4/07, 10:33 PM
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