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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Cool So is FORD now covering FRPP stuff installed by Dealers

Got my magazine from Ford the other day and there is a flyer in it saying that the FRPP "Packs" are now covered under warranty IF installed by the Dealership?

If so, has Ford finally seen the light.............this will surely increase the sales of their stuff. Wish it had happened a few years ago.


Now I can start to mod the wife's GTCS with comfort.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure they already did.

Anyway, the whole Magnussen-Moss warranty act should make it hard for them to cheat you on your warranty anyway.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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A local dealership has been putting together some pretty stout packages using all FRPP stuff of course. I asked if they were going to honor the warranty when some guy brings his car back with something broken. They said there were still alot of grey areas.

I can see some smuck off the street buying their "Boss" edition with the FRPP drag pack and breaking something and they say, "sorry those are aftermarket parts"!
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Old May 6, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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well last year we were talking about if you modded your car you are on your own, unless you broke a part that was not related to you mod, and that would depend on your dealership.

I had suggested that with ALL the aftermarket parts, FRPP would clean up if they offered the warranty coverage you lose with adding other mod parts.

This is the first time I have heard of this.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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True. But given the cost the dealers charge for the install. And the fact that the packs are just ok performance wise, and the sema act, it is a decent option but not a great one.

BMW does the same thing with Dinan. But the parts are just ok, and the cost is through the roof. But you keep a warrantee that you would have likely had anyway.


Now, if they did something like offer the whipple charger as a factory installed option and dealer installed option, all ready to go with a warrantee. That would raise an eyebrow or two.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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I think they mean that the packs themselves are covered under warranty, but there are gray areas in their warranty statement where they won't cover damage to the car caused by these parts. Still lots of gray areas.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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They mention the SC being a option to install also.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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I don't know about all of the "packs," but I am certain that some of the "packs" are covered.

As I understand it, the parts to which the warranties apply (The info is on the FRPP website), you get (I think) a 3/36 warranty on the parts if you purchase them from a dealer and have the dealer install the parts before you take delivery. You get a 12 mos warranty if you purchase from a dealer and the dealer installs but it is done after you take delivery of the car. There is a computer system which the dealer has to call into and register your parts. The you are good to go.

For example, I bought the FRPP FR3 handling pak and had it installed by the dealer before I ever took possession of the car, so the whole set-up should be warrantied for 3 years...pricey, but warrantied

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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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The handling and power pack where coverd, but not the drag pack according to mine. Check the website its the same therehttp://www.fordracingparts.com/perfo...cepackages.asp
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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FRPP doesn't make any of the stuff they sell nor do they offer any warranties on said products.

For example, the Borla Stingers look exactly the same as the FRPP 5GT axle-backs. However, Borla has stated that they do in fact manufacture the 5GT axle-backs for Ford, but are NOT covered under Borla's warranty because they aren't made to the same "specifications". I received this info directly from David Borla.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
FRPP doesn't make any of the stuff they sell nor do they offer any warranties on said products.
Very true, everyone seems to forget that, or seems to think there is something "special" about FRPP. They just sell stuff, nothing more...nothing less.

Now as far as dealers warranting the stuff...it's up to them. Nothing has changed on that front IMO.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
FRPP doesn't make any of the stuff they sell nor do they offer any warranties on said products.
You guys finally caught me, I am making this all up, and was perhaps also hallucinating when I had the above discussion with my dealer and when I showed the .pdf linked to below to my dealer and when, after investigating for a day or two, called me back to tell me I was right, that Ford does warranty the parts when installed by a dealer...

http://www.fordracingparts.com/warra..._STATEMENT.pdf

Maybe FRPP doesn't warranty the parts, but Ford does...

"Ford Motor Company warrants" is really all you need to read...

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Seriously, apparently this is a dramatic turn from past practices, but certain (not all) FRPP parts may be warrantied by Ford if a Ford dealer installs them.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sycd
I think they mean that the packs themselves are covered under warranty, but there are gray areas in their warranty statement where they won't cover damage to the car caused by these parts. Still lots of gray areas.
There are no grey area's period..The packs themselves are not only covered under warranty ? but your factory warranty also remains intact.. Providing of course, the parts are installed by an authorized Ford dealer..The only grey area is ? they won't cover damage caused by the parts, if installed by an un-authorized dealer/customer..Therefore I suggest you read over the warranty policy again..
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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How is 1875 for the fr3 package installed by dealer?
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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The suspension system? If so IIRC its about 1200 bucks for the complete kit, I suppose 675-700 isnt to bad along with keeping your warranty intact. If they are using all new fastners then its a pretty good deal (looks at 1 gallon bag of brand new Ford suspension fastners that cost me 250 bucks)
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
There are no grey area's period..The packs themselves are not only covered under warranty ? but your factory warranty also remains intact..
I don't think so.

"WARNING NOTICE:
Racing Parts are not Genuine Ford Parts. All Ford Racing Parts are aftermarket parts. Therefore, they may not be used in any application that requires the use of Genuine Ford Parts. The use of Ford Racing parts and components is likely to increase horsepower which may cause damage to the vehicle driveline and adversely affect other performance characteristics. Such damage is the sole responsibility of the consumer and is not covered by this Limited Warranty."

You have a warranty for the parts you bought. If a part you bought breaks or something, they'll replace it.

For the rest of the car, you have the same coverage you would have with any installation of aftermarket parts from anybody - if they can't prove the aftermarket part caused the failure, then you're covered.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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I don't think so.

You have a warranty for the parts you bought. If a part you bought breaks or something, they'll replace it.

For the rest of the car, you have the same coverage you would have with any installation of aftermarket parts from anybody - if they can't prove the aftermarket part caused the failure, then you're covered.
Perhaps if you had bothered to read my entire post, you would've noticed that I clearly stated. Your factory warranty remains intact, providing the parts are installed by an authorized Ford dealer !


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The packs themselves are not only covered under warranty ? but your factory warranty also remains intact.. Providing of course, the parts are installed by an authorized Ford dealer..The only grey area is ? they won't cover damage caused by the parts, if installed by an un-authorized dealer/customer
And FYI, my dealer's service manager also informed me, that as long as the parts are purchased, and installed by an authorized Ford dealer. The factory warranty remains intact, regardless of whether or not the parts caused a failure.

That being said, you cannot tell me that if you purchase a Shelby GT through your local Ford dealer, which already has FRPP parts factory installed through Shelby Automotive. That Ford will not honor the factory warranty, if in the event a failure happens to take place. That is just absolutely absurd !

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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Perhaps if you had bothered to read my entire post, you would've noticed that I clearly stated. Your factory warranty remains intact, providing the parts are installed by an authorized Ford dealer !
I read your post. I'm just pointing out that your warranty only remains in effect if the FRPP parts don't cause something else to fail. This would also be the case if you installed them yourself, had somebody else install them, or installed parts from some other manufacturer.

So there's really no warranty benefit to having FRPP parts or having a dealer install them. You have a parts warranty - I think pretty much every manufacturer gives you that.

And FYI, my dealer's service manager also informed me, that as long as the parts are purchased, and installed by an authorized Ford dealer. The factory warranty remains intact, regardless of whether or not the parts caused a failure.
Well, if your service manager's making his own warranty, that's great. I hope he has the authority to do that, and I hope he gives you something in writing. Because all he'd have to do is whip out the written warranty and point out that:

"The use of Ford Racing parts and components is likely to increase horsepower which may cause damage to the vehicle driveline and adversely affect other performance characteristics. Such damage is the sole responsibility of the consumer and is not covered by this Limited Warranty."

That being said, you cannot tell me that if you purchase a Shelby GT through your local Ford dealer, which already has FRPP parts factory installed through Shelby Automotive. That Ford will not honor the factory warranty, if in the event a failure happens to take place. That is just absolutely absurd !
That would be absurd if I was trying to tell you that. But I'm not.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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had my 3.73 gears installed by dealer. covered under warenty! What is not covered any more are the 3.33's
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SStang
So there's really no warranty benefit to having FRPP parts or having a dealer install them.

Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
That being said, you cannot tell me that if you purchase a Shelby GT through your local Ford dealer, which already has FRPP parts factory installed through Shelby Automotive. That Ford will not honor the factory warranty, if in the event a failure happens to take place. That is just absolutely absurd !

Originally Posted by SStang
That would be absurd if I was trying to tell you that. But I'm not.


According to your above quote, you were doing exactly just that. Therefore if what you stated was accurate, then whether you purchase a Shelby GT with FRPP parts factory installed by Shelby Auto's, or have an authorized Ford dealer install them. Wouldn't make any difference, as according to your statement, Ford would not honor the factory warranty, in the event of a failure taking place, due to FRPP parts being responsible.

I also suppose that according to your above statement, there's also really no benefit in purchasing a Shelby GT, because if factory installed and fully warranted FRPP parts, should be responsible for causing other Ford warranted parts to fail, then Ford will not honor the factory warranty right ?

So in that case, the customer is then responsible for eating the costs on his new vehicle purchase, because of the fact that parts which already came included with the vehicle, prior to purchase, may be responsible for causing other warranted parts to fail.

No offense, but IMO not only is your prior statement absurd, but it also just doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever !

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