so is the 05 gt faster than the 04 mach 1 ?
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
Originally posted by jqstang+December 13, 2004, 9:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jqstang @ December 13, 2004, 9:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
[/b][/quote]He didn't say the GT was an auto, where did you come to that conclusion?
Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
Originally posted by V10+December 14, 2004, 7:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (V10 @ December 14, 2004, 7:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
And your 05 is an auto. One to two car lengths is probably the difference between the auto and the manual.
Easy, now, I'm not bashing here. I like both cars.
Yes, both cars are modded....now. But that has not always been the case. I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter.
Given that the '05 autos seem to be running faster than their stick counterpart to date, I will say the stick/auto diffrence is a wash. I bought my Mach for 27K and the '05 for 26.5K close enough so it is a wash as well.
It will become evident soon enough as spring rolls around and more '05's are on the road. I'm sure there will be hundreds of posts regarding '05/Mach 1/GTO matchups to talk about.
Yes, both cars are modded....now. But that has not always been the case. I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter.
Given that the '05 autos seem to be running faster than their stick counterpart to date, I will say the stick/auto diffrence is a wash. I bought my Mach for 27K and the '05 for 26.5K close enough so it is a wash as well.
It will become evident soon enough as spring rolls around and more '05's are on the road. I'm sure there will be hundreds of posts regarding '05/Mach 1/GTO matchups to talk about.
Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 14, 2004, 9:42 PM
... I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter...
... I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter...
Thanks for the comparison
Would you mind posting your stock and modded numbers? Thanks,
The Boss Hog
Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 14, 2004, 9:42 PM
Easy, now, I'm not bashing here. I like both cars.
Yes, both cars are modded....now. But that has not always been the case. I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter.
Given that the '05 autos seem to be running faster than their stick counterpart to date, I will say the stick/auto diffrence is a wash. I bought my Mach for 27K and the '05 for 26.5K close enough so it is a wash as well.
It will become evident soon enough as spring rolls around and more '05's are on the road. I'm sure there will be hundreds of posts regarding '05/Mach 1/GTO matchups to talk about.
Easy, now, I'm not bashing here. I like both cars.
Yes, both cars are modded....now. But that has not always been the case. I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter.
Given that the '05 autos seem to be running faster than their stick counterpart to date, I will say the stick/auto diffrence is a wash. I bought my Mach for 27K and the '05 for 26.5K close enough so it is a wash as well.
It will become evident soon enough as spring rolls around and more '05's are on the road. I'm sure there will be hundreds of posts regarding '05/Mach 1/GTO matchups to talk about.
We need a head to head on the same track with the same driver on the same day etc. IMO.
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
Originally posted by Dan@December 15, 2004, 5:44 PM
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
Originally posted by holderca1+December 15, 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (holderca1 @ December 15, 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dan@December 15, 2004, 5:44 PM
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
A six speed probably won't help much unless you significantly boost the horsepower of the engine. It will take more energy to spin the extra mass of the 6 speed so more than likely you will loose power.
Originally posted by comp orange 04+December 16, 2004, 7:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (comp orange 04 @ December 16, 2004, 7:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
All the more reasons to drop a 6-spd in there.
Originally posted by holderca1@December 15, 2004, 10:12 PM
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@December 15, 2004, 5:44 PM
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
All the more reasons to drop a 6-spd in there.
Well of course, that's not going to be my only mod, probably a few years off when the stock warranty runs out.



