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so is the 05 gt faster than the 04 mach 1 ?

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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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what about the 04 gt? i know it has 40 more hp but what about the other facts involved ex: weight,gears,etc.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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I dont think it is. From wat Ive read on other forums the Mach has a slight edge.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Wish I could find a '04 Mach 1 that wasn't scared to run against me....
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
You own an 03 Mach. There also must be a diff between the 03 and 04 Mach 1 so the 04 may be even faster.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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The '03 was rated at 305hp and the '04 at 310hp due to some tweaks in the CPU programming. Other than that, they are exactly the same.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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How much more did theMach cost than the regular GT?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
dont forget that the mach is a 5 speed and the gt is an auto
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by jqstang+December 13, 2004, 9:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jqstang @ December 13, 2004, 9:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
dont forget that the mach is a 5 speed and the gt is an auto [/b][/quote]
He didn't say the GT was an auto, where did you come to that conclusion?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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His sig I believe.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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His sig I believe.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
While appreciate your comments, neither your Mach 1 nor your '05 are stock so the comparison is flawed.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by V10+December 14, 2004, 7:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (V10 @ December 14, 2004, 7:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GarageLogic@December 13, 2004, 8:56 PM
I own both, and with 4.10's under both the Mach beats the '05 everytime...in the quarter. However, the '05 actually gets out of the hole better and can hold off the Mach through the eighth. The 4-valve starts to pull on the '05 after that point and has about a car or two by the end of the quarter.
While appreciate your comments, neither your Mach 1 nor your '05 are stock so the comparison is flawed. [/b][/quote]


And your 05 is an auto. One to two car lengths is probably the difference between the auto and the manual.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Easy, now, I'm not bashing here. I like both cars.

Yes, both cars are modded....now. But that has not always been the case. I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter.

Given that the '05 autos seem to be running faster than their stick counterpart to date, I will say the stick/auto diffrence is a wash. I bought my Mach for 27K and the '05 for 26.5K close enough so it is a wash as well.

It will become evident soon enough as spring rolls around and more '05's are on the road. I'm sure there will be hundreds of posts regarding '05/Mach 1/GTO matchups to talk about.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Nice to know how the 05 compares to the mach1.
I'm wondering if you put 87 or 93 octane in your 05 for the race ?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 14, 2004, 9:42 PM
... I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter...
Garage,
Thanks for the comparison It matches up with my thinking on manual vs. auto. The close spacing of the 1-2-3 gears in the auto really give it an advantage in the 1/8 but then the very large 3-4 split costs it at the high end. I sure wish someone would offer a close-ratio gear set for the manual.
Would you mind posting your stock and modded numbers? Thanks,

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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by GarageLogic@December 14, 2004, 9:42 PM
Easy, now, I'm not bashing here. I like both cars.

Yes, both cars are modded....now. But that has not always been the case. I know what the Mach 1 ran, both in the 1/8th and 1/4, when it was stock. I also ran the '05, stock, on the same track with almost the same weather conditions and they were almost even through the 1/8th and the Mach was 2 tenths faster through the quarter.

Given that the '05 autos seem to be running faster than their stick counterpart to date, I will say the stick/auto diffrence is a wash. I bought my Mach for 27K and the '05 for 26.5K close enough so it is a wash as well.

It will become evident soon enough as spring rolls around and more '05's are on the road. I'm sure there will be hundreds of posts regarding '05/Mach 1/GTO matchups to talk about.
Not bashing here either. Thanks for your comparison. I would love to see a head to head by a magazine though. My problem is, when you are talking 1 or 2 tenths, running the same car on a different day can make a difference let alone two cars with two different transmissions etc...

We need a head to head on the same track with the same driver on the same day etc. IMO.


On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by Dan@December 15, 2004, 5:44 PM
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
All the more reasons to drop a 6-spd in there.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by holderca1+December 15, 2004, 10:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (holderca1 @ December 15, 2004, 10:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dan@December 15, 2004, 5:44 PM
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.
All the more reasons to drop a 6-spd in there. [/b][/quote]
A six speed probably won't help much unless you significantly boost the horsepower of the engine. It will take more energy to spin the extra mass of the 6 speed so more than likely you will loose power.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by comp orange 04+December 16, 2004, 7:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (comp orange 04 @ December 16, 2004, 7:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by holderca1@December 15, 2004, 10:12 PM
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@December 15, 2004, 5:44 PM
On a side note, anyone notice 5th in the stang is very much a highway gear. Very little punch in 5th. Good for mpg i guess. I also notice a bit of a jump from 3rd to 4th. 1-2-3 are absolutely killer though.

All the more reasons to drop a 6-spd in there.
A six speed probably won't help much unless you significantly boost the horsepower of the engine. It will take more energy to spin the extra mass of the 6 speed so more than likely you will loose power. [/b][/quote]
Well of course, that's not going to be my only mod, probably a few years off when the stock warranty runs out.
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