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5/31/05, 08:55 AM
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Smarten up namecallers, young magazine readers full of *()@ and vinegar, and all the others.....
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Good information when you strip away all the ego
Keep it civilized
Good information when you strip away all the ego
5/31/05, 11:57 AM
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I have been shifting at full throttle with the clutch (and a tri-ax) since april, and the second gear synchro is starting to go.....only grinds at high rpms (above 5000) but it is nevertheless going.....
powershifting is hard on the tranny.
bottom line is that you pay through the nose for speed. If you want to go fast you have to beef things up, and drive it like you stole it, and that is not a recipe for drivetrain longevity.
im kinda bummed about the synchro...i wonder if the dealer will give me a hard time, or replace it under warranty. I kinda dont expect them to be too cool about it because i am fearing the worst, but they did install a camber kit when i lowered the car at no charge...so i guess you never can tell.....
fingers crossed!
powershifting is hard on the tranny.
bottom line is that you pay through the nose for speed. If you want to go fast you have to beef things up, and drive it like you stole it, and that is not a recipe for drivetrain longevity.
im kinda bummed about the synchro...i wonder if the dealer will give me a hard time, or replace it under warranty. I kinda dont expect them to be too cool about it because i am fearing the worst, but they did install a camber kit when i lowered the car at no charge...so i guess you never can tell.....
fingers crossed!
5/31/05, 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by KansasCityTim@May 31, 2005, 10:12 AM
Clearly the dozens and dozens of other people I have talked to are wrong. I bow to your wisdom. Clearly we are all "wrong" because you say we are wrong. Listen, I don't mean to be a smarta**, but there is room for difference of opinion and disagreement, but you people that come out here are say "you are wrong, period" are just full of crap. I am willing to accept that there may be two versions, apparently unlike you. There wouldn't be so many car saavy people out there telling me I am right if it did not exist.
Clearly the dozens and dozens of other people I have talked to are wrong. I bow to your wisdom. Clearly we are all "wrong" because you say we are wrong. Listen, I don't mean to be a smarta**, but there is room for difference of opinion and disagreement, but you people that come out here are say "you are wrong, period" are just full of crap. I am willing to accept that there may be two versions, apparently unlike you. There wouldn't be so many car saavy people out there telling me I am right if it did not exist.
I am not disputing that there are some people out there that will always, regardless of how much logic you throw at them, continue to behave in a certain fashion. If you would like to call your method powershifting, be my guest. I really don't care what you call it - I didn't copyright the technique, lol. I just figured that you wouldn't want to encourage a techinique that gives your ET no boost whatsoever and destroys your gearbox in the process.
I'm not the only one saying you are wrong. Every website on the web says you're wrong, every guy who goes to the track at Englishtown says you're wrong, but hey - it's your car, brother! You wanna tear it up, be my guest! More wins for me.
I'm not going to call you names or be condescending. I'm a bit more mature than that. I was just trying to help out a fellow Mustang owner before he did irreperable damage to his drivetrain for no reason.
5/31/05, 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by OBleedingMe@May 31, 2005, 2:30 PM
But yet, you ARE wrong, "period." Shifting with no clutch will not give you any sort of advantage, it'll just tear your tranny up.
I am not disputing that there are some people out there that will always, regardless of how much logic you throw at them, continue to behave in a certain fashion. If you would like to call your method powershifting, be my guest. I really don't care what you call it - I didn't copyright the technique, lol. I just figured that you wouldn't want to encourage a techinique that gives your ET no boost whatsoever and destroys your gearbox in the process.
I'm not the only one saying you are wrong. Every website on the web says you're wrong, every guy who goes to the track at Englishtown says you're wrong, but hey - it's your car, brother! You wanna tear it up, be my guest! More wins for me.
I'm not going to call you names or be condescending. I'm a bit more mature than that. I was just trying to help out a fellow Mustang owner before he did irreperable damage to his drivetrain for no reason.
But yet, you ARE wrong, "period." Shifting with no clutch will not give you any sort of advantage, it'll just tear your tranny up.
I am not disputing that there are some people out there that will always, regardless of how much logic you throw at them, continue to behave in a certain fashion. If you would like to call your method powershifting, be my guest. I really don't care what you call it - I didn't copyright the technique, lol. I just figured that you wouldn't want to encourage a techinique that gives your ET no boost whatsoever and destroys your gearbox in the process.
I'm not the only one saying you are wrong. Every website on the web says you're wrong, every guy who goes to the track at Englishtown says you're wrong, but hey - it's your car, brother! You wanna tear it up, be my guest! More wins for me.
I'm not going to call you names or be condescending. I'm a bit more mature than that. I was just trying to help out a fellow Mustang owner before he did irreperable damage to his drivetrain for no reason.
5/31/05, 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by 97svtgoin05gt@May 30, 2005, 8:58 PM
Going to be hilarious when this kid blows his first trans the dealer says "Sorry, this is abuse. That'll be $1,800 please."
Going to be hilarious when this kid blows his first trans the dealer says "Sorry, this is abuse. That'll be $1,800 please."
a T-56 is 1800 new on ebay
Faber aka Johnny, put the stock shifter back on before taking it to the dealer
5/31/05, 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by OBleedingMe@May 30, 2005, 3:24 PM
He shouldn't have called you an idiot, but he is right. Powershifting is not shifting without the clutch. It's shifting with the clutch while the accelerator pedal is floored.
Shifting with no clutch safely is a slow and tedious task, usually achieved at very low RPMs to match up the synchros so you don't grind/burn them.Clutchless shifting has zero to do with performance driving. Clutchless shifting is usually done only in an emergency, like when you have to get home because your clutch is blown from powershifting!
He shouldn't have called you an idiot, but he is right. Powershifting is not shifting without the clutch. It's shifting with the clutch while the accelerator pedal is floored.
Shifting with no clutch safely is a slow and tedious task, usually achieved at very low RPMs to match up the synchros so you don't grind/burn them.Clutchless shifting has zero to do with performance driving. Clutchless shifting is usually done only in an emergency, like when you have to get home because your clutch is blown from powershifting!
5/31/05, 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@May 31, 2005, 2:12 PM
tell them to prove it, it was parts failure
a T-56 is 1800 new on ebay
Faber aka Johnny, put the stock shifter back on before taking it to the dealer
tell them to prove it, it was parts failure
a T-56 is 1800 new on ebay
Faber aka Johnny, put the stock shifter back on before taking it to the dealer
but i do see your point...
5/31/05, 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Shea@May 31, 2005, 6:52 AM
Hehe, yeah, I had a throwout bearing go on my Audi (after 200K miles, I wasn't too surprised). I had to drive it with no clutch for a mile or so to a repair facility. At stop light I would shut her down. The starter actually had enough torque to turn that engine over and start the car going in 1st gear once I had a green light.
Knowing how to upshift and downshift without using the clutch was quite helpful in that situation.
Hehe, yeah, I had a throwout bearing go on my Audi (after 200K miles, I wasn't too surprised). I had to drive it with no clutch for a mile or so to a repair facility. At stop light I would shut her down. The starter actually had enough torque to turn that engine over and start the car going in 1st gear once I had a green light.
Knowing how to upshift and downshift without using the clutch was quite helpful in that situation.
Eased it in and out of the gears using the starter motor to get me going in first.
6/1/05, 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by 2K3 Mach@May 31, 2005, 8:02 PM
I did the same thing. Drove my 1986 SVO 100 miles on the Turnpike with a broken clutch cable.
Eased it in and out of the gears using the starter motor to get me going in first.
I did the same thing. Drove my 1986 SVO 100 miles on the Turnpike with a broken clutch cable.
Eased it in and out of the gears using the starter motor to get me going in first.
6/1/05, 09:23 PM
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Just my two cents: The way I was always told and the way that I would say that most of the old grizzled muscle-heads always taught me was that power-shifting was shifting without the clutch.
6/2/05, 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by BackwardHatClub@June 2, 2005, 4:04 AM
Just my two cents: The way I was always told and the way that I would say that most of the old grizzled muscle-heads always taught me was that power-shifting was shifting without the clutch.
Just my two cents: The way I was always told and the way that I would say that most of the old grizzled muscle-heads always taught me was that power-shifting was shifting without the clutch.
6/2/05, 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@June 2, 2005, 1:46 PM
their is no point in it, its not called powershifting and it provides no advantage.
their is no point in it, its not called powershifting and it provides no advantage.
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