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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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I have 3.55 in my car. The only thing holding me up with gears is cost of installation because gears aren't expensive themselves. Will they be the best next option for the money? I currently have cai and tune, axle back. I know not much, but since I just graduated from college this weekend and now working full time, I'll have more money to put towards my car.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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When you do gears you'll def want 410s though. Maybe LCAs and UCA next. UPR has a chrome moly kit for I think $269
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tu3218
I have 3.55 in my car. The only thing holding me up with gears is cost of installation because gears aren't expensive themselves. Will they be the best next option for the money? I currently have cai and tune, axle back. I know not much, but since I just graduated from college this weekend and now working full time, I'll have more money to put towards my car.
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When you do gears you'll def want 410s though. Maybe LCAs and UCA next. UPR has a chrome moly kit for I think $269
You've pretty much done all the cheap DIY mods you can do already. haha. Offroad midpipe like we talked about earlier is pretty much the only other 'cheap' mod you could do that is going to make a noticeable gain but only if you can get away with it.

Muscledom makes a good point that maybe some suspension mods would be a good next step, but if you're not that much into racing the car you might not feel that much of a change on the street.

I still vote for gears. I think if you're careful about it and take your time there's no reason you couldn't do the install yourself.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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What's up with everyone using the jlt oil separators? Should it be a necessary upgrade for my 13' track pack?
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin509

You've pretty much done all the cheap DIY mods you can do already. haha. Offroad midpipe like we talked about earlier is pretty much the only other 'cheap' mod you could do that is going to make a noticeable gain but only if you can get away with it.

Muscledom makes a good point that maybe some suspension mods would be a good next step, but if you're not that much into racing the car you might not feel that much of a change on the street.

I still vote for gears. I think if you're careful about it and take your time there's no reason you couldn't do the install yourself.
Setting the backlash properly is a ***** if your lost. I'd suggest a pro install. This kid drives this thing everyday. If it was a toy, **** it. Why not. Even the ford PPCs have trouble, believe me.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin509
You've pretty much done all the cheap DIY mods you can do already. haha. Offroad midpipe like we talked about earlier is pretty much the only other 'cheap' mod you could do that is going to make a noticeable gain but only if you can get away with it.

Muscledom makes a good point that maybe some suspension mods would be a good next step, but if you're not that much into racing the car you might not feel that much of a change on the street.

I still vote for gears. I think if you're careful about it and take your time there's no reason you couldn't do the install yourself.
haha yeah I figured I was at that point. Yeah not interested in suspension because its just a DD. But it looks like gears will be my next step. Only problem is when I added my hybrid tune, I was getting a lot of wheel hop. I'm afraid 4.10 gears is gonna make my car even more difficult to take off. Then again the fact that my tires are basically bald right now probably isn't helping at all lol
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tu3218

haha yeah I figured I was at that point. Yeah not interested in suspension because its just a DD. But it looks like gears will be my next step. Only problem is when I added my hybrid tune, I was getting a lot of wheel hop. I'm afraid 4.10 gears is gonna make my car even more difficult to take off. Then again the fact that my tires are basically bald right now probably isn't helping at all lol
Well if you're having issues with wheel hop then new upper and lower control arms might be a great choice for you. They should cure your wheel hop issues.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin509

Well if you're having issues with wheel hop then new upper and lower control arms might be a great choice for you. They should cure your wheel hop issues.
Jeez no one wants to listen to me lol
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Jeez no one wants to listen to me lol
Hey now! I said you made a good point about suspension! hahaha
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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This is gonna get expensive hahah
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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It doesn't get any cheaper, trust me lol. I have the steeda billet LCAs they make a noticeable difference in handling and wheel hop reduction.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin509
Gears will give you the biggest "butt dyno" gain for your money in that price range, hands down. This will be especially true if your car came stock with the 3.31 ratio that ford switched to instead of the standard 3.55 in 07.

My car with off road X pipe, intake and 91 octane tune as the only real performance mods + 3.73s feels a whole world faster than a bone stock 07 GT we have at work with 3.31s
+1 CAI and 91 Tune helped some. Noticeable but not spectacular. But the 3.73s and Drive shaft mod felt more than double in the acceleration effect on the ol butt dyno. 3.31s to 3.73s net a nearly 13% increase in Torque at the wheels. First time on the freeway on ramp, the wife mentioned what did you do to the car?
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Torque peak is around 4400 rpm in these cars. A drop from 4th to 3rd at 65MPH with 3.73s puts you right around peak torque. Also a drop from 3rd to second at 40MPH puts you there as well.

Gears. $750 installed perfectly at any reputable shop.

I went 3.73 in hopes of going FI in the future. If you are going to stay NA for life, 4.10s.

I get 19/23 City/Hwy with 3.73s.
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by shaun_beauchamp
Torque peak is around 4400 rpm in these cars. A drop from 4th to 3rd at 65MPH with 3.73s puts you right around peak torque. Also a drop from 3rd to second at 40MPH puts you there as well.

Gears. $750 installed perfectly at any reputable shop.

I went 3.73 in hopes of going FI in the future. If you are going to stay NA for life, 4.10s.

I get 19/23 City/Hwy with 3.73s.
$600 for installation? that much really? How long does such a job take?
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tu3218

$600 for installation? that much really? How long does such a job take?
Labor and parts should only cost like 450 plus the gears.
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by muscledom
Labor and parts should only cost like 450 plus the gears.
oh alright. I'm confused because on AM when you select your gears, there's three other options you can add on. Gear install kit, Add Traction LOK Rebuild kit, and 2010 8.8 rear gear pinion bearing. Are those things just necessary if you're doing it yourself or do I need those even if a shop is doing it. Also, do I need all three or which should I select?
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Old Mar 18, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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My installer warranted the gear swap to not whine among other things. So he picked the parts which included a rebuild kit sans the clutch pack. I asked about the bearings to which he said removing the pinion gear bearing could damage it so he always put on new. The others were cheap insurance. And with the labor being the highest cost item, replaced the seals as well. Car had 8,000 miles at the time. He installed a Ford OEM gear set. My rear axle does not whine or leak so I am happy.

From that experience, I would recommend at the least ordering your gears with a new pinion bearing and seals. Adding in a complete rebuild kit at least resets the mileage on the rear and does not add to the labor cost.

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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Yes, make sure to replace the bearings too. I know the gears only will cause premature issues. Gears, bearing kit, fluid, labor, and test drive a few years ago was $750. He also inspected some of my suspension geometry and checked lash in my driveline. It was maintenance/upgrade.
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