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Old 12/6/06 | 04:50 PM
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Overhead console lamps - splicing for radar detector power, and changing bulbs?

I would like to know if the overhead console lamp(s) can be tapped as a power source for an accessory such as a radar detector. Will it cut power to the detector within the 10-15 min for the accessory delay, or does the radar detector stay on indefinitely?

How do I remove the console assembly? I do not see any screws or fasteners on the exterior.

Can we swap out the bulbs for LEDs? I was thinking of using different colored LEDs for either reduced IR signature, better night vision, or just to be slightly different.
Old 12/6/06 | 05:03 PM
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Do you have the auto dimming mirror with builtin electronic compass? If so, it's only on if the car is on. You could tap it.
Old 12/6/06 | 05:23 PM
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I have the regular mirror (manual, non-electronic).
Old 12/6/06 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by neil07gt
Do you have the auto dimming mirror with builtin electronic compass? If so, it's only on if the car is on. You could tap it.
Any more info on this? How do I get at it? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Old 12/6/06 | 08:48 PM
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Any more info on this? How do I get at it? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

The overhaed console lamp housing pulls straight down as it is mounted with 2 clips - one on either side. I'm in the midst of adding footwell lighting and am going to tap off of the overhead map light illuminated entry curcuit. Just came across some goofy results with the test lamp last night - going at it again tonight.
Old 12/6/06 | 09:27 PM
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Is the power to the lamps hot at all times?
Old 12/6/06 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HOTLAP
The overhead console lamp housing pulls straight down as it is mounted with 2 clips - one on either side. I'm in the midst of adding footwell lighting and am going to tap off of the overhead map light illuminated entry curcuit. Just came across some goofy results with the test lamp last night - going at it again tonight.
Use this link and go to post #57 for an explanation of why you cannot tap the map light circuit for radar detector or electrochromic mirror power.

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=50338

That discusson has another backlink to a discussion of electrochromic mirror installation that will provide even more details if you're interested. See below:

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=15620

Finally, for specifics on footwell lighting installation, check out this link:

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?p=267877

Good luck!
Old 12/6/06 | 10:14 PM
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There are two open blocks in the fusebox in the front passenger footwell. One is hot all the time and the other is switched. You can tap the switched one to get power for your radar detector. You can also grab a ground from near the fusebox as well.

It's been a while since I hardwired mine so I cant specifically remember exactly what number location they are but they didn't have any fuses in them from the factory. Use a voltmeer to test them. Ford makesit really simple to get power for either switched and non-switch applications.

Do not splice power from the overhead lights. I think there is a link in a post above that explains why.
Old 12/7/06 | 12:17 AM
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Metroplex.......
YES you can tap into the light to power a detector.
YES it will turn itself off in just a few minutes.
This install info is for a NON POWERED mirror.
NOTE: This is for a 2005 GT. The newer models MIGHT have a slightly different wiring plan.
I have had my detector installed like this for almost a year and NO problems.
Feel free to ask me any questions you might have. Good luck
You really wont need it, this is a very simple install.


Save your money on the smart cord.
PARTS:
1. A small inline fuse, 5 amps will be plenty.
2. 2 feet of “two wire phone cord with plug”.
3. Two sets of wire taps. Your choice. Or just tap directly to the wires and solder and tape.
(Most phone cords are two wire.) MOST! two wire GRAY phone cords have a RED and a GREEN wire inside. This is what I used and this is how I will describe the installation.

NOTE 1: My ESCORT 85 X50 would only allow me to wire it one way.
After you strip or use taps on the wires, just touch the plugged in phone wires to the stripped wires and the radar WILL beep or it won't.
Just switch wires if it does not. P.S. Turn on the radar before you try this.

NOTE 2: There are three BLACK wires coming from the light assembly,
two blacks are wired from the lights into a BLUE wire that has shrink wrap on it. This BLUE is the HOT or positive lead. The other BLACK wire coming from the harness is a loose BLACK lead for the entire light assembly (Lights and Motion sensor).

1. Pop off the overhead light case. Use a flat screw driver or just your hands...it is held in by just TWO compression clips on either side of the light.

2. Unplug the wiring harness to make your life easier.

3. Find the lose BLACK wire and tap that for the ground.
The RED phone wire goes to this.

4. Find the two BLACK wires that are wired to the BLUE light leads
and tap that for the power. The BLUE wire is longer and easier to tap.
The GREEN phone wire goes to this. Use the fuse here between BLUE wire and the GREEN wire.

5. Run the GRAY phone wire with the plug through the open slot in the headliner. The two feet of phone cord will be enough to mount the radar with suction cups anywhere on the high side of the windshield. Just tuck the extra cord into the headliner.

6. Plug in the factor harness, TEST EVERYTHING NOW! Reinstall the light case and you are done. P.S. You can leave the RADAR on it will shut down when the light turn off and restart when you turn off the alarm or open the doors.
Old 12/7/06 | 06:04 AM
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Thank you very much for the installation instructions!!!!
Old 12/7/06 | 06:36 AM
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It looks like the Smart Junction Box controls the map lights and it is hot at all times according to the FSM.

Black-Light Blue (+12V) and Black (GND).
Old 12/7/06 | 05:14 PM
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I think Im going to try this...good write up
Old 12/7/06 | 06:15 PM
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You are welcome.

It is a very easy install.
It will yake longer to gather the tools than to do the job.
Old 12/7/06 | 10:17 PM
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I've had my escort's smart cord plugged into the map lights for 2 years and still going strong. I was the first one to do this on this forum, there's a writeup somewhere. Yes the power turns off after 10-15 minutes and turns back on when you unlock the doors
Old 12/7/06 | 11:38 PM
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KUDU's to dustindu4

He gave me the idea ........It works great
Old 12/10/06 | 02:36 PM
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Anyone have that writeup he was talking about?
Old 12/10/06 | 03:21 PM
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you can absoluetely tap the map lights for a radar detector. no it wont turn off automatically. you will have to turn on and off the radar detector everytime you want to use it but you can for sure tap those wires. Dustindu4 did it and had a writeup on here somewhere
Old 12/10/06 | 03:41 PM
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The battery saver is supposed to cut the power to the map lights after 10 minutes according to the owner's manual. Is that what turns off the detector?
Old 12/11/06 | 02:30 PM
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Sirius Mounted The Same Way

Originally Posted by INTRUDER
You are welcome.

It is a very easy install.
It will yake longer to gather the tools than to do the job.
I agree. My Sirius is wired the same way, and is mounted on the front of the console. I don't have to turn it on or off and it is pretty much perfect [power-wise and location-wise]... See all of the other posts about connecting it to the radio.

Mike E
Old 12/12/06 | 03:35 PM
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OK, now I am confused. Some in this thread say the map lights will time off, and they have to unlock the doors to make it come back on, others say that it comes on and off with the ignition (switched hot), and still some say that they have to use the radar detector switch to make it turn on and off, which would make it a constant hot, so which is it? I am curious to know just which wire is a constant hot in the overhead that I can tap into. I have the factory 07 autodim compass mirror, but I am going to replace it with a Gentex autodim mirror with homelink, compass and temp. I can use some of the existing wiring from the current mirror harness (the ground, the reverse autodim defeat, and the switched hot), but I still need to tap a constant hot to power the homelink so you can open a garage door without the ignition on. I have seen the threads on where to tap near the fuse box, but since I can tap everything else up top, it would sure be nice to just know which wire up top is a constant hot to tap that is always on. If anybody knows, please clarify for me, as I am slow, ha, ha Thanks in advance


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