Oil catch tank/oil separator
#23
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If you get a leak in the PCV system, your engine will stall. That includes any cracks in the air compressor filters you are using. The Stef's system looks robust but I want a full bolt-on kit and not have to source out individual fittings and find a mounting location myself. It's got to be made of all metal or a durable zytel nylon. Polycarbonate bowls are weak and will crack or age over time.
The 4.6/5.4 3V V8 engines DO have a PCV valve and PCV system. The 3V V8 engines don't have IAC's because of the drive-by-wire system that keeps the throttle plate open, not because the PCV was deleted. The 3V V8 engines don't have EGR valves because of the variable cam timing (VCT) system.
The 4.6/5.4 3V V8 engines DO have a PCV valve and PCV system. The 3V V8 engines don't have IAC's because of the drive-by-wire system that keeps the throttle plate open, not because the PCV was deleted. The 3V V8 engines don't have EGR valves because of the variable cam timing (VCT) system.
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What about that one? Should fits Mustang GT as well.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...mZ330270807721
or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oil-S...=p4506.c0.m245
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...mZ330270807721
or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oil-S...=p4506.c0.m245
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Both of those are cheap polycarbonate bowls designed to be used as air compressor filters. VW and Ford have OEM oil separators that are made of Dupont Zytel nylon. Check out the MZR 2.3L DOHC I4 that Ford uses on the Focus and Mazda3 - it has a neat oil separator that attaches to the engine block or at least according to the FSM.
#27
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Anyone with a Whipple care to share a couple pics of how and where you have it set up. I have a Stef's can and since there is so little room on the driver's side, just an idea of where others have put theirs would help me.
Dunno if it makes a difference or not, but I will be adding a SLP line lock on the drivers side shock tower as well.
Thanks in advance.
Dunno if it makes a difference or not, but I will be adding a SLP line lock on the drivers side shock tower as well.
Thanks in advance.
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Here's the rig I'm running...
Very effective, looks good, and I empty it every oil change, and have around 2oz of oil in it. This car is run on a road course fairly frequently, so I know what you mean about sucking the oil in during the high-vac conditions under deceleration...
Stef's catch can, Earl's fittings, and braided covers on standard hoses...
Very effective, looks good, and I empty it every oil change, and have around 2oz of oil in it. This car is run on a road course fairly frequently, so I know what you mean about sucking the oil in during the high-vac conditions under deceleration...
Stef's catch can, Earl's fittings, and braided covers on standard hoses...
SoundGuyDave,
Would you be willing to post a parts list?
It looks like you used a 90deg fitting on each attachment to the Stef separator? Looks a lot better than having to run a long hose to accomodate a straight fitting on the side.
#30
Earls 984210 90* hose barb fittings (1/2" NPT to 5/8" barb)
5/8" stainless sheathing over emissions hose
Dress-up "AN look" clamps
I also cut the PCV line apart to get the 90* press-on fitting for the valve cover
If I had to do it over again, I would use a 90* pipe fitting for the bottom, and then use a 45* pipe to barb fitting, it would simplify the angle going to the manifold, and thus make mounting the can easier.
This is all from memory, so it may have been 3/4" NPT, but just order the fittings to match the can, and you'll be fine.
I went with that routing simply because I didn't like the big loop of hose, but be aware that I run the Prothane motor mounts, so mine doesn't torque over very much. With stock mounts and a good amount of torque, you may need to run the loop for strain relief.
#31
Oil separator, oil catch can
Hey fells. I have been thinking, since our engines seem to suffer from cleanliness issues in the intake and most people seem to agree the pcv system is to blame.
Well I have been thinking about installing an oild catch tank...
It seems some kits are ridiculus and overly expensive like the steeda oil separator witch seems to be no more than a compressor dryer selling for 70bux where the parts for it cost 20bux at home depot....
and I have seen some e-bay generic kits that seem more resonable and offer larger capacity for about 35bux shiped.
I have also seen some high end catch cans (if there is such a thing) that sell for well over 150bux.
Anyone have one of these? Any input? Good or bad idea? Differences? I am not trying to rice my car out, but my intake being filthy is definitely something to consider.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
Well I have been thinking about installing an oild catch tank...
It seems some kits are ridiculus and overly expensive like the steeda oil separator witch seems to be no more than a compressor dryer selling for 70bux where the parts for it cost 20bux at home depot....
and I have seen some e-bay generic kits that seem more resonable and offer larger capacity for about 35bux shiped.
I have also seen some high end catch cans (if there is such a thing) that sell for well over 150bux.
Anyone have one of these? Any input? Good or bad idea? Differences? I am not trying to rice my car out, but my intake being filthy is definitely something to consider.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
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Oil separators and catch cans are pretty much one in the same, as their intended design is to pull crankcase oil vapors into the canister and are supposed to stay in the canister.
The problem however, is the cheaper designed separators such as JLT use very poor screen filtering which causes crankcase oil to pass through the PCV hose barb connectors and then get sucked into the intake manifold.
I know this through personal experience, as I started out with the JLT catch can/oil separator and despite the fact that it did trap some crankcase vapor oil, most of it still got past the PCV hoses and into the intake manifold. After JLT agreed to accept a return for a full refund, I did quite a bit of research before purchasing my next oil separator/catch can and in the end, I went with the UPR 4-chamber catch can/oil separator.
It's design consists of 3 aluminum disk screens which are attached to a vented tube wrapped with wire mesh screen along with small screens placed inside each of the PCV barb connectors.
Needless to say, after 4+years, not a single drop of crankcase vapor oil has gotten sucked into the intake manifold as a direct result. Therefore, not all catch can/oil separators are designed quite in the same way, so just something to keep in mind when choosing an oil separator/catch can. .
That being said, the purpose behind all catch cans/oil separators, is not only to pull crankcase vapor oil into their canisters, but also to prevent it from re-entering the crankcase, to begin with!
Meanwhile, hope you find this info useful and also welcome aboard.
The problem however, is the cheaper designed separators such as JLT use very poor screen filtering which causes crankcase oil to pass through the PCV hose barb connectors and then get sucked into the intake manifold.
I know this through personal experience, as I started out with the JLT catch can/oil separator and despite the fact that it did trap some crankcase vapor oil, most of it still got past the PCV hoses and into the intake manifold. After JLT agreed to accept a return for a full refund, I did quite a bit of research before purchasing my next oil separator/catch can and in the end, I went with the UPR 4-chamber catch can/oil separator.
It's design consists of 3 aluminum disk screens which are attached to a vented tube wrapped with wire mesh screen along with small screens placed inside each of the PCV barb connectors.
Needless to say, after 4+years, not a single drop of crankcase vapor oil has gotten sucked into the intake manifold as a direct result. Therefore, not all catch can/oil separators are designed quite in the same way, so just something to keep in mind when choosing an oil separator/catch can. .
That being said, the purpose behind all catch cans/oil separators, is not only to pull crankcase vapor oil into their canisters, but also to prevent it from re-entering the crankcase, to begin with!
Meanwhile, hope you find this info useful and also welcome aboard.
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