Nitrous install pics
11/6/08 | 09:04 PM
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Nitrous install pics
I'm ALMOST done with my nitrous install. Here are some pics.
pics were taken with my phone, will get more/better/complete sysem pics when im done.
The total nitrous package includes an MSD rom window switch, purge valve, remote bottle opener, kenne bell boost a pump, snow performance water/methanol injection system, and a Nitrogen assisted Nitrous Oxide (NANO) System to replace a bottle heater.
pics were taken with my phone, will get more/better/complete sysem pics when im done.
The total nitrous package includes an MSD rom window switch, purge valve, remote bottle opener, kenne bell boost a pump, snow performance water/methanol injection system, and a Nitrogen assisted Nitrous Oxide (NANO) System to replace a bottle heater.
12/22/08 | 02:41 AM
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How much do you think you have spent once everything is complete. Looks real good. How much of a shot are you running? Any problems so far? thanks
12/22/08 | 07:11 AM
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Definitely need more pics, I was going to run the same setup except without the meth. I love the idea of the nano setup, only way to go from what I have read about it. I am trying a supercharger instead, I figured to do nitrous right is would get very pricey in a hurry.
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12/28/08 | 12:28 AM
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I havent been able to get her tuned yet, i went to the dyno with 100 hp jets 87 tune and water on and i was running too lean. It did put down 370 hp and 400 tq uncorrected even with a dip at about 4000 rpms (pulled timing). Costs: i got my plate kit for a little less than 600, NANO about 550 or so, water/methanol about 350, purge 50, remote bottle opener 120, boost a pump 200, random wiring stuff about 50 and a tune will be probably about 250 so Somewhere around $1800 ish.
I used it on the street once with the 100 hp jets and floored it from second at 45, shifted to 3rd and let off. I looked down expecting about 80 mph or so, I was doing 110. Honestly if I could go back I would save for a supercharger instead of an elaborate nitrous system. If your looking for "cheap" power your best bet is a zex kit with accesories, about $750 or so.
I used it on the street once with the 100 hp jets and floored it from second at 45, shifted to 3rd and let off. I looked down expecting about 80 mph or so, I was doing 110. Honestly if I could go back I would save for a supercharger instead of an elaborate nitrous system. If your looking for "cheap" power your best bet is a zex kit with accesories, about $750 or so.
12/28/08 | 07:59 AM
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beyond that i dont know, lol.
12/28/08 | 02:19 PM
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Actually the NANO doesn't keep the bottle warm at all. You can use nitrogen or compressed air, I use compressed air because its the same fitting used for paintball tanks and I just fill up when I play.
The theory to how NANO works is pretty complex. Well actualy NANO is easy, and the bottle heater system is difficult to explain. With NANO its just a second, smaller tank, but at 4500psi. Theres a regulator on the bottle that regulates the output on the compressed air bottle to 1050 psi which feeds into the nitrous tank where you would put a gauge. As nitrous flows out of the bottle, compressed air is let into the bottle, always at 1050 psi so the nitrous tank is always at a constant 1050 psi. Easy enough.
Now the complicated part. Inside the bottle there is nitrous gas, and nitrous liquid. This is so because nitrous is normally a gas at atmospheric pressure, but since it is under so much pressure it compresses the gas into a liquid.
Temperature is a measure of HEAT in a defined AREA. Almost like density except instead of mass its heat. Heat is energy. This energy causes all molecules to vibrate. The more they vibrate the more area take up or pressure they can exert on other molecules. This is why when you heat the bottle, the pressure rises because the molecules are vibrating more violently and are trying to take up more space, but can't.
Normally as you use nitrous, the bottle pressure will drop, even if you use a bottle heater. This is because the volume in the tank is decreasing, and nitrous must evaporate in order to keep the right pressure in the bottle to maintain the amount of liquid in the bottle. By the nitrous evaporting, it causes the liquid nitrous to cool down, like when you sweat it cools you down because the heat and wind around you makes the water evaporate, taking some heat out of you. A bottle heater combats the temperature drop to help maintain the pressure, but with the NANO the bottle pressure maintains constant, and so the liquid will remain at ambient temperature.
Im not a very good teacher and I probably left some stuff out but that is basically how the NANO system works and why it is better than a bottle heater.
Oh and another advantage, the less liquid nitrous in the bottle, the faster it cools down. So with a bottle heater when your low on nitrous the pressure will spike down very rapidly and render your nitrous system useless because it will deliver alot less nitrous than what it is tuned for causing your engine to run rich. NANO you can use every drop of liquid nitrous and the pressure is always the same.
The theory to how NANO works is pretty complex. Well actualy NANO is easy, and the bottle heater system is difficult to explain. With NANO its just a second, smaller tank, but at 4500psi. Theres a regulator on the bottle that regulates the output on the compressed air bottle to 1050 psi which feeds into the nitrous tank where you would put a gauge. As nitrous flows out of the bottle, compressed air is let into the bottle, always at 1050 psi so the nitrous tank is always at a constant 1050 psi. Easy enough.
Now the complicated part. Inside the bottle there is nitrous gas, and nitrous liquid. This is so because nitrous is normally a gas at atmospheric pressure, but since it is under so much pressure it compresses the gas into a liquid.
Temperature is a measure of HEAT in a defined AREA. Almost like density except instead of mass its heat. Heat is energy. This energy causes all molecules to vibrate. The more they vibrate the more area take up or pressure they can exert on other molecules. This is why when you heat the bottle, the pressure rises because the molecules are vibrating more violently and are trying to take up more space, but can't.
Normally as you use nitrous, the bottle pressure will drop, even if you use a bottle heater. This is because the volume in the tank is decreasing, and nitrous must evaporate in order to keep the right pressure in the bottle to maintain the amount of liquid in the bottle. By the nitrous evaporting, it causes the liquid nitrous to cool down, like when you sweat it cools you down because the heat and wind around you makes the water evaporate, taking some heat out of you. A bottle heater combats the temperature drop to help maintain the pressure, but with the NANO the bottle pressure maintains constant, and so the liquid will remain at ambient temperature.
Im not a very good teacher and I probably left some stuff out but that is basically how the NANO system works and why it is better than a bottle heater.
Oh and another advantage, the less liquid nitrous in the bottle, the faster it cools down. So with a bottle heater when your low on nitrous the pressure will spike down very rapidly and render your nitrous system useless because it will deliver alot less nitrous than what it is tuned for causing your engine to run rich. NANO you can use every drop of liquid nitrous and the pressure is always the same.
12/28/08 | 02:21 PM
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I believe it is to keep the bottle pressure consistant at appx. 1200 psi by adding air or nitrogen from a seperate tank as the nitrous is used up.
Missed it by 2 minutes.
Missed it by 2 minutes.
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12/28/08 | 04:28 PM
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Actually the NANO doesn't keep the bottle warm at all. You can use nitrogen or compressed air, I use compressed air because its the same fitting used for paintball tanks and I just fill up when I play.
The theory to how NANO works is pretty complex. Well actualy NANO is easy, and the bottle heater system is difficult to explain. With NANO its just a second, smaller tank, but at 4500psi. Theres a regulator on the bottle that regulates the output on the compressed air bottle to 1050 psi which feeds into the nitrous tank where you would put a gauge. As nitrous flows out of the bottle, compressed air is let into the bottle, always at 1050 psi so the nitrous tank is always at a constant 1050 psi. Easy enough.
Now the complicated part. Inside the bottle there is nitrous gas, and nitrous liquid. This is so because nitrous is normally a gas at atmospheric pressure, but since it is under so much pressure it compresses the gas into a liquid.
Temperature is a measure of HEAT in a defined AREA. Almost like density except instead of mass its heat. Heat is energy. This energy causes all molecules to vibrate. The more they vibrate the more area take up or pressure they can exert on other molecules. This is why when you heat the bottle, the pressure rises because the molecules are vibrating more violently and are trying to take up more space, but can't.
Normally as you use nitrous, the bottle pressure will drop, even if you use a bottle heater. This is because the volume in the tank is decreasing, and nitrous must evaporate in order to keep the right pressure in the bottle to maintain the amount of liquid in the bottle. By the nitrous evaporting, it causes the liquid nitrous to cool down, like when you sweat it cools you down because the heat and wind around you makes the water evaporate, taking some heat out of you. A bottle heater combats the temperature drop to help maintain the pressure, but with the NANO the bottle pressure maintains constant, and so the liquid will remain at ambient temperature.
Im not a very good teacher and I probably left some stuff out but that is basically how the NANO system works and why it is better than a bottle heater.
Oh and another advantage, the less liquid nitrous in the bottle, the faster it cools down. So with a bottle heater when your low on nitrous the pressure will spike down very rapidly and render your nitrous system useless because it will deliver alot less nitrous than what it is tuned for causing your engine to run rich. NANO you can use every drop of liquid nitrous and the pressure is always the same.
The theory to how NANO works is pretty complex. Well actualy NANO is easy, and the bottle heater system is difficult to explain. With NANO its just a second, smaller tank, but at 4500psi. Theres a regulator on the bottle that regulates the output on the compressed air bottle to 1050 psi which feeds into the nitrous tank where you would put a gauge. As nitrous flows out of the bottle, compressed air is let into the bottle, always at 1050 psi so the nitrous tank is always at a constant 1050 psi. Easy enough.
Now the complicated part. Inside the bottle there is nitrous gas, and nitrous liquid. This is so because nitrous is normally a gas at atmospheric pressure, but since it is under so much pressure it compresses the gas into a liquid.
Temperature is a measure of HEAT in a defined AREA. Almost like density except instead of mass its heat. Heat is energy. This energy causes all molecules to vibrate. The more they vibrate the more area take up or pressure they can exert on other molecules. This is why when you heat the bottle, the pressure rises because the molecules are vibrating more violently and are trying to take up more space, but can't.
Normally as you use nitrous, the bottle pressure will drop, even if you use a bottle heater. This is because the volume in the tank is decreasing, and nitrous must evaporate in order to keep the right pressure in the bottle to maintain the amount of liquid in the bottle. By the nitrous evaporting, it causes the liquid nitrous to cool down, like when you sweat it cools you down because the heat and wind around you makes the water evaporate, taking some heat out of you. A bottle heater combats the temperature drop to help maintain the pressure, but with the NANO the bottle pressure maintains constant, and so the liquid will remain at ambient temperature.
Im not a very good teacher and I probably left some stuff out but that is basically how the NANO system works and why it is better than a bottle heater.
Oh and another advantage, the less liquid nitrous in the bottle, the faster it cools down. So with a bottle heater when your low on nitrous the pressure will spike down very rapidly and render your nitrous system useless because it will deliver alot less nitrous than what it is tuned for causing your engine to run rich. NANO you can use every drop of liquid nitrous and the pressure is always the same.
12/28/08 | 04:31 PM
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you mentioned earlier the kenne bell boost a pump and the methanol/water injection with the kit. are you superchaged at all? reason i asked was cause i never really saw a vehicle with either boost a pump or that injection kit on a non supercharged vehicle. so its probably just cause of the nitrous for more power and lower temps?
like i said before, dont mind me im trying to educate myself a little more on nitrous kits
like i said before, dont mind me im trying to educate myself a little more on nitrous kits
12/28/08 | 06:21 PM
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you mentioned earlier the kenne bell boost a pump and the methanol/water injection with the kit. are you superchaged at all? reason i asked was cause i never really saw a vehicle with either boost a pump or that injection kit on a non supercharged vehicle. so its probably just cause of the nitrous for more power and lower temps?
like i said before, dont mind me im trying to educate myself a little more on nitrous kits
like i said before, dont mind me im trying to educate myself a little more on nitrous kits
With nitrous you actually lose power with a water/methanol kit. Nitrous accelerates combustion and water slows it back down, causing you to lose power but help prevent detonation. The intake temperature isnt lowered much by the water, because the nitrous already lowers the temperature probably below ambient (the nitrous evaporates at the nozzles at -127 degrees farenheit).
12/28/08 | 06:33 PM
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The two bottles are mounted to a board and can be removed in about a minute to allow acces to spare tire.
Water/methanol container, brackets to mount board, and lines for nitrous and remote bottle opener
Boost a pump installed. controller mounted next to it.
Pump for water methanol
Bottles in place
Water methanol leaving the trunk, runs underneath spare tire well then along fuel lines along with the nitrous line, up the wheel well, and into the engine compartment
solenoid for water methanol, injector on bottom of intake
ALOT of wires/lines had to be ran, i made brackets and bundled them all together
purge runs along windshield wiper line, through hood and out hood scoop.
holes for purge, cant see them unless your looking for them
Had to modify the engine cover for it to fit
arm, purge, and bottle opener switches
The two bottles are mounted to a board and can be removed in about a minute to allow acces to spare tire.
Water/methanol container, brackets to mount board, and lines for nitrous and remote bottle opener
Boost a pump installed. controller mounted next to it.
Pump for water methanol
Bottles in place
Water methanol leaving the trunk, runs underneath spare tire well then along fuel lines along with the nitrous line, up the wheel well, and into the engine compartment
solenoid for water methanol, injector on bottom of intake
ALOT of wires/lines had to be ran, i made brackets and bundled them all together
purge runs along windshield wiper line, through hood and out hood scoop.
holes for purge, cant see them unless your looking for them
Had to modify the engine cover for it to fit
arm, purge, and bottle opener switches
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