Im going to stay out of this one for the most part....

but I had a trap of 113 with a 12.9sec run. This was several months ago now and only with a NX 100shot coupled with a JLT for my power mods.

I expect another second (atleast) off my slips when Im ready to use the nitrous again. Me still needs the drag radials though to make a decent nitrous run. :P

Im out.

-Dan

 

What gear are you guys in as you cross the line 3rd or 4th, looking to mostly stock or tuned car guys for the answer?

 

awesome times dude! but why such slow trap spd?
u got me by one entire second, but only like 2mph

 

For the life of me, I can't figure out why anyone really cares about trap speed. It's all about ETs and win lights as far as I'm concerned.

Sorry to interrupt the argument, but I couldn't help myself.

Carry on...

 

who cares about the speed? a 1.6 60ft means his cars seems to be hooking. most people NA running close to the same MPH are luck to get 2.1 in the 60ft. the same cars w/ same gearing are going to go the same speed in each gear. just the car w/ more power will get to that speed quicker

 

ok guys sorry for the wait but as 169stang said I still dont have internet at my house. I will post my first time slip which was an 11.96 run and not my 11.92 run because they cut off th 1/8 mile part for some reason.
r/t: .329
60': 1.662
330: 4.918
1/8: 7.618
mph: 91.07
1000: 9.972
1/4: 11.960
mph: 113.56

The 3 runs were 11.96, 11.99, and 11.92 all at 113.xx mph.
The only time I felt any spin at all was the second run off the line but that doesnt mean I didnt spin down the track at some point. One thing I can think of that contributed to my trap of 113 could be my tire pressure- I was running 14 psi in 26/11.50-17 et streets and could have probably gone a little higher but I did not know what to expect off the line with the nitrous. I was launching between 3000 and 3500 and the temp was around 74 degrees and humidity was 80. I cant really think of any other factors for you guys to play around with--pinion angle set to -3 degrees, I did have to 20's on the front aired up to 55 psi and I did not remove any weight except for the spare tire. I do not think I was having any trouble with the nitrous bc all 3 runs were pretty consistent. bottle pressure is at 900psi which is set by the zex bottle heater that has a thermostat. For anyone that missed my last post my dyno numbers were 378 hp and 471 tq. I promise to post the timeslip and dyno sheet whenever I get my internet back- I am an internet junky and I am going through withdrawl. Any other questions please post them and I will get back to them when I can. Thanks, Jan

 

Thanks for the reply Jan... I'll try and disect the numbers.. In the mean-time, think about your transition at or around the 1/8th mile marker.. When you shifted from 3rd to 4th gear, what do you remember the transition being like? Try and think back over all three runs.. Did you every feel the rear-end skip at all? Even if you were not forced to lift at this point, did you feel any unstableness after you made the shift to 4th from 3rd, and mashed the pedal back to its WOT position?

 

LOL!! I believe this is MikeM's car! But looking at MikeM's numbers here, it would truley indicate to me atleast that Jan did at some point after the 1/8th get just alittle squirley.. Maybe not enough to lift from wide open throttle, but enough for MikeM, to make up 4MPH on him...

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...slip-5584.html

We are just talking guys.. I dont know why guys would take offense to people who would like to know where the loss occured.. You can not deny, looking at the numbers, that a loss of traction somewhere in the last 1/8th took place..

Also we can see in the 1/8th mile race, Jan did manage to keep his 1MPH lead over MikeM, up to this point.. Remember in the 60' race, Jan was at 37MPH, while MIKEM was at 36MPH.. Jan kept this 1MPH lead, upto the 1/8th mile point.. The difference was in the shift from 3rd to 4th gear, at which point, MIKEM rear wheels stuck to the pavement, while Jan's broke loose for a moment..

 

Hey, I'm not taking any sides here at all. Honestly, I don't really get the discussion. Who cares, Jan's in the 11's now. It was Jan's first night on the bottle, so I doubt he remembers all the specifics. I know I wouldn't remember exactly the whole run. The point to my post was just to shed light on the "track." It could be better and I KNOW that better times are had at other tracks. I couldn't tell you how many times I break traction on a N/A setup. It's just not the best track in the world, especially on a test and tune night. They're not resurfacing for just no reason. Jan will get some better ET's and MPH as he gets more used to the car. I pose this question...Did anyone that is running on the bottle run their best times on their first 3 passes or even off the bottle? Doubt it. Not all of us are like John, Mike, or George. It's a learning curve for everyone.

 

I ran my best ET(in sig) the first time ever at the track with my 05 GT. Drag racing IMO is fairly easy. But hey what do I know, I prefer to use the brakes and the steering wheel too

 

I understand 169Stang! You have read the post so far, and have somehow taken the info and maybe assumed that I'm saying Jan's run was no good..

I'll be honest.. Based on what I can see so far, Jan is the fastest 05GT here.. Its as simple as this.. Jan leaves the spare tire in the trunk, giving back to MikeM, maybe 1/2 MPH in the 60'.. So instead of 37MPH to Mikem's 36MPH, he runs a 36.5.. One fender.. He gets to the 1/8th, and makes his shift from 3rd to 4th, and since he has that extra 50 or 60Lbs of weight on the rear, he's able to make a smooth transition from 3rd to 4th, and run a 11.85ET @ 117MPH.. LOL!! This is what I'm saying.. I say what Jan should do on his next run, is keep the same tune, cause its darn good.. Leave the spare tire in the trunk, and go for it.. If your next run, setup the way I suggest, which is with the extra 50 or 60lbs in the trunk, by way of the spare tire does not work, I will publicly make an apology for thinking something was there, that wasnt..

What happen on his run was the rear wheels, skipped 1 or 2 revolutions after he shifted from 3rd to 4th.. This is what happened.. I am saying Jans car is performing so good, that its too light in the back for the 3rd to 4th transition around the 1/8th mile..

For the record. I believe Jan's setup is good enough for 11.85 @ 117MPH as it sits.. Leave the spare tire in the trunk..

 

i don't think so buddy i am the fastest here pal then george and the list goes on,what jan ran the first time out is good but don't claim he is the fastest because everything went smooth for him all nitrous cars have problems at some point and the first nitrous pass i had was 11.7-115-1.63 60ft. r/t-6.92-60ft-1.57-330-4.661-1/8-7.276-mph-93.73-1000-9.550-1/4-11.526-112.55

 

LOL!! My apologies JP!! Dont want to make that mistake.. Ok, I'll say he's good for 11.85ET @ 117MPH.. Not faster than you, but his membership is much safer in the 11 sec club! LOL!!

Actually a club I am trying to be a memeber of.. The 11 Sec club is the club to be with in my opinion.. 13's are good.. 12's are better.. But the guys in the 11's know how to party!! LOL!!

 

no problem it's all in good fun here just wish i could have got my 11.9 pass=n/a,guess i will have to stick with that 12.20=107.64,won't be any more =n/a passes with the turbo going on the car. :worship:

 

The 12.2 N/A is stellar.. I noticed your also running the 4.30's.. Whats the gas MPG on the highway in 5th gear? I show 70MPH in 5th @ 2500RPM with 27.5in tires.. Not bad actually.. HMMM..

 

22 mpg in 5th gear 80mph=3000rpm stock tires.

 

LOL- I am by no means the fastest car here but I do appreciate the compliment. I am also not the best driver around but I do have about 50-60 passes under my belt in the past year or so and I am much better now. Up until this point the fastest I had ever gone was in the 13's ( with the '05 and my 2.3T ranger) so 11's was a whole different ball game for me and I did not know what to expect. I will lighten the front end of the car before next time out and maybe launch a little higher. I will also know what to expect. My first pass the powerpoint plug in the dash flew out and hit me in the helmet, as if the hardest launch of my life was scary enough. Definately a rush though and now im craving more. Thanks for all the comments and critiques guys, Jan

 

I haven't misunderstood anyone or interpreted what anyone has said. I honestly didn't even read any of the above posts after the first 5. I was merely shedding light on the track conditions alone. Nothing I said was based on what anyone said here what so ever. I really don't care about analyzing his run for the sake of argument alone. I'll analyze it and provide input if there is something I could possibly say to help improve his run-not that I'm some drag professional.
I know that Jan runs full weight. That's not saying he can run faster than anyone else on the boards here. It's a different track, different skills, different conditions. I'm not taking any sides of any argument here, JUST shedding light on the track-like I said before.
I do think it's silly to get into this peeing match about whose running faster. I just think it's cool as all for guys to be making these accomplishments. If you want to compare numbers, do it at the track-the same track.

 

Thanks for your thoughts 169Stang! Didnt mean for you to feel you were being drug into this kicking and screaming... LOL!!

@Jan

I think you can do an 11.85ET @ 117 or slightly better.. Based on the info you have submitted, I think the engine is doing great in the powerband around the 1/8th mile.. Next time you run, try and focus on this section of the track.. Your launch is great.. If you can somehow set the car up for a smoother transition after you complete your 1st 1/8th, you should be able to re-coup some of the speed you lost, and a few 10ths, and a 100th or so.. Now this could be with slightly less air in the rear tires, and or more weight in the rear, ie the spare tire.. This is just my opinion based on what I see.. Let me know how it goes.. Good Luck