New Game, can you tell which dynorun is the JET TB
11/22/05, 07:54 PM
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Update: Getting a custome tune from Doug on Saturday, and trying it with and without the TBS, so we'll get another look to see if the TBS works or not. Doug might bring his LFP TB, to see how it does on a manual as well.
11/23/05, 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by Hatchman@November 22, 2005, 8:57 PM
Update: Getting a custome tune from Doug on Saturday, and trying it with and without the TBS, so we'll get another look to see if the TBS works or not. Doug might bring his LFP TB, to see how it does on a manual as well.
Update: Getting a custome tune from Doug on Saturday, and trying it with and without the TBS, so we'll get another look to see if the TBS works or not. Doug might bring his LFP TB, to see how it does on a manual as well.
Hey guy,
I called and left you a message but I need to move up the dyno appointment so call me when you can.
Thanks, Doug.
11/25/05, 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Hatchman@November 15, 2005, 8:32 AM
Interesting that this part showed no gains, when dozens of people have reported "seat of the pants" gains and less throttle lag, especially with the automatic.
Is there some way throttle response could be better without increasing horsepower/torque?
I trust Doug's work and believe his dyno results, just interesting. Placebo effect? I installed one in my ex's 05 auto GT, and I "thought" I could feel an effect on throttle lag.
Interesting that this part showed no gains, when dozens of people have reported "seat of the pants" gains and less throttle lag, especially with the automatic.
Is there some way throttle response could be better without increasing horsepower/torque?
I trust Doug's work and believe his dyno results, just interesting. Placebo effect? I installed one in my ex's 05 auto GT, and I "thought" I could feel an effect on throttle lag.
11/26/05, 07:17 AM
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Hey Bill,
I got one I'll sell you cheaper then new, the TB spacer that is, if you want to try it yourself.
There again I'm going to the dyno later today and I'll be trying out the TB spacer and possibly the LFP TB again on a manual car this time trying to still see if there maybe any type of gains. Truthfully I don't expect it.
thanks, Doug
I got one I'll sell you cheaper then new, the TB spacer that is, if you want to try it yourself.
There again I'm going to the dyno later today and I'll be trying out the TB spacer and possibly the LFP TB again on a manual car this time trying to still see if there maybe any type of gains. Truthfully I don't expect it.
thanks, Doug
11/27/05, 06:51 AM
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I wasn't sure what to expect after reading some mixed reviews on here about the Throttle Body Spacer. I installed it about 10 days ago, and there certainly was 'some' difference. Now, maybe it was all just the difference in the throttle lag, and not actually hp/torque gains that were causing the difference, I don't know. The difference came in normal city driving and mild interstate accelerating, but couldn't really tell any difference at WOT.
I added my C&L CAI and the SCT X2 tune last Monday, and what a difference those items make.
Now, what I am wondering is this. Could the TBS be beneficial to the stock intake, but not on the aftermarket CAI? I think that the TBS provides a small increase in power on the stock set-up, but is probably just redundant in any power /throttle lag gains when already benefiting from the CAI & Tuner?
It would be cool to see a...
stock intake vs. stock intake w/tbs dyno
retest the CAI/Tuner vs. CAI/Tuner/TBS to confirm previous testing
This way, we can see if it is strictly a mod for those not planning to spend $700+ for a CAI & Tuner, or a power adder for both stock & aftermarket intakes, or just a waste for everyone.
After having it on there for a few days before I did the tuner & CAI, it is just hard to believe that there is no difference on the dyno. But like I said above, maybe the difference was entirely reduced throttle lag, and not actual power increases.
I added my C&L CAI and the SCT X2 tune last Monday, and what a difference those items make.
Now, what I am wondering is this. Could the TBS be beneficial to the stock intake, but not on the aftermarket CAI? I think that the TBS provides a small increase in power on the stock set-up, but is probably just redundant in any power /throttle lag gains when already benefiting from the CAI & Tuner?
It would be cool to see a...
stock intake vs. stock intake w/tbs dyno
retest the CAI/Tuner vs. CAI/Tuner/TBS to confirm previous testing
This way, we can see if it is strictly a mod for those not planning to spend $700+ for a CAI & Tuner, or a power adder for both stock & aftermarket intakes, or just a waste for everyone.
After having it on there for a few days before I did the tuner & CAI, it is just hard to believe that there is no difference on the dyno. But like I said above, maybe the difference was entirely reduced throttle lag, and not actual power increases.
11/27/05, 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by KWMJ-KTP@November 27, 2005, 8:54 AM
I installed it about 10 days ago, and there certainly was 'some' difference. Now, maybe it was all just the difference in the throttle lag, and not actually hp/torque gains that were causing the difference, I don't know.
After having it on there for a few days before I did the tuner & CAI, it is just hard to believe that there is no difference on the dyno. But like I said above, maybe the difference was entirely reduced throttle lag, and not actual power increases.
I installed it about 10 days ago, and there certainly was 'some' difference. Now, maybe it was all just the difference in the throttle lag, and not actually hp/torque gains that were causing the difference, I don't know.
After having it on there for a few days before I did the tuner & CAI, it is just hard to believe that there is no difference on the dyno. But like I said above, maybe the difference was entirely reduced throttle lag, and not actual power increases.
11/28/05, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Doug904@November 26, 2005, 8:20 AM
Hey Bill,
I got one I'll sell you cheaper then new, the TB spacer that is, if you want to try it yourself.
There again I'm going to the dyno later today and I'll be trying out the TB spacer and possibly the LFP TB again on a manual car this time trying to still see if there maybe any type of gains. Truthfully I don't expect it.
thanks, Doug
Hey Bill,
I got one I'll sell you cheaper then new, the TB spacer that is, if you want to try it yourself.
There again I'm going to the dyno later today and I'll be trying out the TB spacer and possibly the LFP TB again on a manual car this time trying to still see if there maybe any type of gains. Truthfully I don't expect it.
thanks, Doug
11/28/05, 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by elvism@November 28, 2005, 9:26 PM
did u test this time with the manual yet?
did u test this time with the manual yet?
No gains on the dyno with the LFP TB or the Jet TBS.
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