new built shortblock
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Originally posted by Black3V+December 8, 2005, 7:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black3V @ December 8, 2005, 7:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Lemme know when this is going to go back in and ill be there. So what happened to no overbore?
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I'll let you know. The factory cylinder isn't perfectly round, so Al bores .020 to make it right.
Originally posted by Vegasjay@December 8, 2005, 7:59 PM
Did you buy the block thru FRPP and then take it to Al? What did the block by itself run?? I've been looking at the 5.4 L Iron block, it's just so heavy...
Did you buy the block thru FRPP and then take it to Al? What did the block by itself run?? I've been looking at the 5.4 L Iron block, it's just so heavy...
Originally posted by HTownStang@December 8, 2005, 8:33 PM
What sleeve are you have on your block?
why are you not using the stock block?
Did you ask them how many HP can the stock block hold?
What sleeve are you have on your block?
why are you not using the stock block?
Did you ask them how many HP can the stock block hold?
Originally posted by Blazing Saddles@December 8, 2005, 8:35 PM
With the turbo it looks like you're going to have the quickest 3V Mustang. Sutton Take Notice.
With the turbo it looks like you're going to have the quickest 3V Mustang. Sutton Take Notice.
Originally posted by 88blownstang@December 8, 2005, 8:43 PM
I'm curious, why did you go with iron over aluminum like the nitrous block? That forged crank looks stout. You said you could rev to 9K if needed, what type of rods? How much boost are you going to run? Sorry for all the questions. I am new to the mod motors and trying to learn as much as I can before spending $$$. Thanks! Bob
I'm curious, why did you go with iron over aluminum like the nitrous block? That forged crank looks stout. You said you could rev to 9K if needed, what type of rods? How much boost are you going to run? Sorry for all the questions. I am new to the mod motors and trying to learn as much as I can before spending $$$. Thanks! Bob
Originally posted by jp's performance@December 8, 2005, 8:45 PM
mine won't be done till next summer (unless i win the lottery) would be happy to go 10.80's on radial's and drive home. :worship:
mine won't be done till next summer (unless i win the lottery) would be happy to go 10.80's on radial's and drive home. :worship:
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What type of turbo setup are you going with? Custom, powerhouse, hellion? I know there are more but those were the first three to come to mind.
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Still pondering. Waiting on some info.
When I'm all done, I'll be posting the dyno numbers WITH 1/4 mile times. I've pretty much learned that a dyno graph doesn't mean squat. For me, it's a tool for tuning. If you can't get it down the track, what's the point of having any HP.
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Originally posted by 169stang@December 8, 2005, 9:40 PM
I don't know about that. I'm not ready for a full cage and everything else that goes with tapping into 9.99's or 135mph range.
I sure hope I hit 10.8's.
I don't know about that. I'm not ready for a full cage and everything else that goes with tapping into 9.99's or 135mph range.
I sure hope I hit 10.8's.
#23
David, Hoosier and M&H both make a 275/60-15 drag radial (28.0" dia).
http://www.mhtires.com/dragradial.php
https://www.hoosiertire.com/specdrag.htm#DOTDragRadial
http://www.mhtires.com/dragradial.php
https://www.hoosiertire.com/specdrag.htm#DOTDragRadial
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Originally posted by Blazing Saddles@December 8, 2005, 10:36 PM
I think you're underestimating the potential for your setup. A shortblock optimized for high boost P&P heads, and a turbo you should easily run into the 9's. If you don't want to run a full cage yet just de-tune it to run 10.0 - 10.1's.
I think you're underestimating the potential for your setup. A shortblock optimized for high boost P&P heads, and a turbo you should easily run into the 9's. If you don't want to run a full cage yet just de-tune it to run 10.0 - 10.1's.
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I have no doubt that low 10s are going to be the norm for you next year. :worship: :worship: :worship:
#26
Oh yea... I'm pretty sure all of this work will "void your warranty"... bwahahaha!!!!
don ---> <--- David
don ---> <--- David
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Originally posted by don_w@December 8, 2005, 10:42 PM
David, Hoosier and M&H both make a 275/60-15 drag radial (28.0" dia).
http://www.mhtires.com/dragradial.php
https://www.hoosiertire.com/specdrag.htm#DOTDragRadial
David, Hoosier and M&H both make a 275/60-15 drag radial (28.0" dia).
http://www.mhtires.com/dragradial.php
https://www.hoosiertire.com/specdrag.htm#DOTDragRadial
#29
Is the offset/backspacing on the Bogarts different? I run 275/50-17 street tires (on a +45mm offset) with tons of clearance.
#30
yes the warranty is gone and yes the Bogarts sit different. I don't know the specs on the wheels though. George may know.
#31
Ahh, some positive experience including engine shots! I was starting to get discouraged looking at all of the broken engine shots. David, you have a pretty slick setup going in there. I guess due to my financial constraints I will be looking at joining the broken engine carnage pics shortly because I don't know how long I will be able to keep it at 6psi. Lookin good.
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9,000 RPM, eh. I am going to have to get Al to build me a short block in a couple of years when I get another car for a daily driver and build my '05 into a SCCA Touring 2 Car.
Your going to stay 3V right David? Do you/Al think that those heads w/ w/o porting will flow enough for that kind of RPM w/o the Turbos?
BTW those are some serious looking valve springs.
Are you going to be putting some Cams on there (BBR? , Crane, Comp )
Your going to stay 3V right David? Do you/Al think that those heads w/ w/o porting will flow enough for that kind of RPM w/o the Turbos?
BTW those are some serious looking valve springs.
Are you going to be putting some Cams on there (BBR? , Crane, Comp )
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I am pretty sure you will never see BBR cams in David's car or mine for that matter. Even if they did come out with cams that made more horsepower than anyone else I would wait for them to be proven over time then I would even wait longer to have another company copy their specs before I would give any money to them after the BS they are pulling with their claims.
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Originally posted by dhof303@December 9, 2005, 9:07 AM
I am pretty sure you will never see BBR cams in David's car or mine for that matter. Even if they did come out with cams that made more horsepower than anyone else I would wait for them to be proven over time then I would even wait longer to have another company copy their specs before I would give any money to them after the BS they are pulling with their claims.
I am pretty sure you will never see BBR cams in David's car or mine for that matter. Even if they did come out with cams that made more horsepower than anyone else I would wait for them to be proven over time then I would even wait longer to have another company copy their specs before I would give any money to them after the BS they are pulling with their claims.
Same here that's why the was there.
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Ahhh, it's all coming to me now, I have seen you on that thread. Just glad to hear there are others that are not fooled with their advertising.
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Originally posted by dhof303@December 9, 2005, 10:21 AM
Ahhh, it's all coming to me now, I have seen you on that thread. Just glad to hear there are others that are not fooled with their advertising.
Ahhh, it's all coming to me now, I have seen you on that thread. Just glad to hear there are others that are not fooled with their advertising.
I eventually replied I'm unsubscribing and the thread got locked after that, lol.
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Originally posted by softbatch+December 9, 2005, 8:50 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(softbatch @ December 9, 2005, 8:50 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>9,000 RPM, eh. I am going to have to get Al to build me a short block in a couple of years when I get another car for a daily driver and build my '05 into a SCCA Touring 2 Car.
Your going to stay 3V right David? Do you/Al think that those heads w/ w/o porting will flow enough for that kind of RPM w/o the Turbos?
BTW those are some serious looking valve springs.
Al used to run SCCA and has a few motors on the works for some SCCA guys. Definately 3V. I was tempted to go 4V, but I love my 3V. I'll never (intentionally) spin it past 7K. I won't need too. The heads will flow, but I don't have any numbers to say how they will or won't flow. Al is thinking I'll p/u maybe 25rwhp, but expects 10-15. It only dropping the compression by a tenth or two. I really don't care about what the car will p/u with the new shortblock b/c I'll be shoving a bunch of power in it anyways.
Are you going to be putting some Cams on there (BBR? , Crane, Comp )
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Your going to stay 3V right David? Do you/Al think that those heads w/ w/o porting will flow enough for that kind of RPM w/o the Turbos?
BTW those are some serious looking valve springs.
Al used to run SCCA and has a few motors on the works for some SCCA guys. Definately 3V. I was tempted to go 4V, but I love my 3V. I'll never (intentionally) spin it past 7K. I won't need too. The heads will flow, but I don't have any numbers to say how they will or won't flow. Al is thinking I'll p/u maybe 25rwhp, but expects 10-15. It only dropping the compression by a tenth or two. I really don't care about what the car will p/u with the new shortblock b/c I'll be shoving a bunch of power in it anyways.
Are you going to be putting some Cams on there (BBR? , Crane, Comp )
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Never anything with BBR for one. If I did, I'd get Al to get some custom turbo cams made thru either comp, crane, or crower. I really haven't seen a benefit of going to another cam, being that I'll be making quite a bit of power with the stockers. I'm trying to keep everthing "stock" as possible. The cams would create a tuning nightmare. BBR's car was at SCT for some extended period of time (I'm talking days or weeks, from what I've heard).
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What kind of tranny you going with?
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I've talked with quite a few people and have decided on a TKO 600. It'll hold the power! They don't like to shift above 7K rpm's anyways. It'll have a McCloud alum. flywheel/twin clutch setup, McCloud external throwout adj., Lakewood SFI bellhousing, and a custom tranny mounted shifter.
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Originally posted by 169stang@December 9, 2005, 1:57 PM
I'm trying to keep everthing "stock" as possible.
I'm trying to keep everthing "stock" as possible.
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LOL. What I mean is if I can keep something on the car I will. I am just trying to avoid a tuning nightmare! If it needs to be replaced for durability then so be it.