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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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with cold air intake total goes to 27hp/38tq.they used a bbk TB and a bbk cai which looks like a C&L unit.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by elvism@August 22, 2005, 10:33 AM
with cold air intake total goes to 27hp/38tq.they used a bbk TB and a bbk cai which looks like a C&L unit.
Mike,

Which months issue is this in?
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Oct, issuse, I picked it up last night. I find it really hard to believe those power gains are all without the use of a different tune, and the fact that the mods didnt dangerously lean out the A/F.

The aluminum intake cover that BBK makes looks really cool though, if only you could get it w/o the BBK emblem on it.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by 245/45ZR-17@August 22, 2005, 11:02 AM
Oct, issuse, I picked it up last night. I find it really hard to believe those power gains are all without the use of a different tune, and the fact that the mods didnt dangerously lean out the A/F.

Thanks . . . . I'm with you, it's hard to believe.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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is the BBK TB out yet and how much is it
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Just in case some missed it. A group buy on a Billet CNC 62mm Twin TB from LM Performance. Available in 4 anodized colors, red, blue, aluminum and black. Check out the sticky in this section. I think that the BBK is a 60mm? Is that correct? If so, can we expect more from a 62mm version
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by nbk13nw@August 22, 2005, 1:54 PM
Just in case some missed it. A group buy on a Billet CNC 62mm Twin TB from LM Performance. Available in 4 anodized colors, red, blue, aluminum and black. Check out the sticky in this section. I think that the BBK is a 60mm? Is that correct? If so, can we expect more from a 62mm version
The BBK is supposed to be 62mm but it is cast, darn I wish I had $400 to throw down on a TB right now.

BTW I am taking donation for the power up James Stang Fund
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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The Throttle Body's may in fact be a better gain than people anticipated...When I talked to Lightning Force Performance ( The group buy TB) they said they were seeing 12-15 RWHP gain's and even more on car's with opened up exhaust...I ordered one and will be dynoing it. I will post the dyno sheet's for everyone to see exactley what they are worth.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Vegasjay@August 22, 2005, 3:20 PM
The Throttle Body's may in fact be a better gain than people anticipated...When I talked to Lightning Force Performance ( The group buy TB) they said they were seeing 12-15 RWHP gain's and even more on car's with opened up exhaust...I ordered one and will be dynoing it. I will post the dyno sheet's for everyone to see exactley what they are worth.
Same here as soon as they release the final info. I gues that will be sometime this evening. Now to get make sure I have enough money for the WMS CAI as well. Hmmm... your right... this is getting rather expensive.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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I hate to be a pesimist on any issue but the price of this thing is rediculous no matter who makes it. I have basically gained my horsepower from mod to mod keeping in mind that the magic number for me to be interested in the product is about $25.00 to $30.00 per rear wheel horsepower to be gained and I always figure on the lowest advertised horsepower because I can guarantee that it will be what I gain at best. This TB bieng about $400.00 works out to about $33.00 per hp, and that is with a group discount and giving them the benefit of 12 rwhp to be gained. I think that they are a little steep, even if it is a debut of a new product. I have spent enough money now to be officially an expert at cost vs. gains on my car.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by dhof303@August 22, 2005, 2:14 PM
I hate to be a pesimist on any issue but the price of this thing is rediculous no matter who makes it. I have basically gained my horsepower from mod to mod keeping in mind that the magic number for me to be interested in the product is about $25.00 to $30.00 per rear wheel horsepower to be gained and I always figure on the lowest advertised horsepower because I can guarantee that it will be what I gain at best. This TB bieng about $400.00 works out to about $33.00 per hp, and that is with a group discount and giving them the benefit of 12 rwhp to be gained. I think that they are a little steep, even if it is a debut of a new product. I have spent enough money now to be officially an expert at cost vs. gains on my car.
I understand what you are saying Derek, as I too have spent a few buck's...Something else to consider though is if the change in the Throttle Body gearing ratio really improves the acceleration feel and performance to a good extent, that is also worth something. In other word's this may not be strictly a HP to dollar's type of mod, if it really improves the throttle response...You can bet I will give a detailed report and I'll also be able to compare it with the TB spacer. Will see if it's worth it...I have a good feeling.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Check out the bottom of RMP Outlet's "dyno tuned power options" for the 2005 Mustang GT. Preditor, C&L intake, u/d pullies & throttle body adds "up to 44 RWHP". Sounds close to what MMFF got. Wonder what the above PLUS headers, low restriction cats & mufflers and gears get ya..... :scratch:
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Moondog@August 22, 2005, 3:20 PM
Check out the bottom of RMP Outlet's "dyno tuned power options" for the 2005 Mustang GT. Preditor, C&L intake, u/d pullies & throttle body adds "up to 44 RWHP". Sounds close to what MMFF got. Wonder what the above PLUS headers, low restriction cats & mufflers and gears get ya..... :scratch:
Stay tuned and I'll show you...
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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im satisfied with the T/B spacer, no need for me to buy a whole new throttle body....
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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I, too, was very surprised with the following text in the article:

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"No laptop or other tuning is needed, as the factory computer automatically compensates for the increased airflow".


I'm no expert, but this seems to contradict what I've read in other magazines and forums.


Can anyone confirm or deny? It sounds too good to be true (not having to retune, that is).
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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I wonder if this would work with the throttle body spacer too?
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by BlueCar@August 22, 2005, 5:16 PM
I wonder if this would work with the throttle body spacer too?
Not until they come out with a Throttle Body spacer the same size...Stock unit is 55 mm, new unit's are 62 mm. My TB spacer is for a 55 mm stock unit, so it won't be re-installed with the new LFP TB.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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says no need to tune cause factory tune will adjust. does that mean also if its already has a aftermarket tune. :scratch:
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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THANKS, Just cancelled my backordered spacer.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by dhof303@August 22, 2005, 1:14 PM
I hate to be a pesimist on any issue but the price of this thing is rediculous no matter who makes it. I have basically gained my horsepower from mod to mod keeping in mind that the magic number for me to be interested in the product is about $25.00 to $30.00 per rear wheel horsepower to be gained and I always figure on the lowest advertised horsepower because I can guarantee that it will be what I gain at best. This TB bieng about $400.00 works out to about $33.00 per hp, and that is with a group discount and giving them the benefit of 12 rwhp to be gained. I think that they are a little steep, even if it is a debut of a new product. I have spent enough money now to be officially an expert at cost vs. gains on my car.
So no gears for you!

$500 and 0hp. But ooooohhhhh so much quicker!
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