is the mach 1 faster then the 05 gt? i know
7/10/05, 09:49 PM
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i brought this up a few months but i have been reading that the mach1 can do around 13.1 in 1/4? were these cars underrated in hp/tq? rated at 305hp ?? what gives? 05 gt not even close! anyone race a stock model?
7/10/05, 11:34 PM
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I was at a 1/4 mi track 3 weeks ago with a guy who had a stock '04 Mach 1. I had the CAI/Pred at the time, but still stock 3.31 rear gears. I ran 13.90s with my automatic, he ran 13.70s with his manual. There was a strong head wind that day, so his car (and mine) may be able to run quicker. But, he had 2-tenths on me. Was that because it has more hp, or was it a difference in the transmissions? Or did aerodynamics play a role. Can't say for sure.
7/10/05, 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by elvism@July 10, 2005, 9:52 PM
i brought this up a few months but i have been reading that the mach1 can do around 13.1 in 1/4? were these cars underrated in hp/tq? rated at 305hp ?? what gives? 05 gt not even close! anyone race a stock model?
i brought this up a few months but i have been reading that the mach1 can do around 13.1 in 1/4? were these cars underrated in hp/tq? rated at 305hp ?? what gives? 05 gt not even close! anyone race a stock model?
7/11/05, 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by DANNY@July 10, 2005, 10:49 PM
Yes rated at 305hp,but i have run a mach1 auto and got the win in the 1/4. As for the 13.1,they are not stock,we have about 4 or 5 in the stang club and they do not get that time if they are stock.
Yes rated at 305hp,but i have run a mach1 auto and got the win in the 1/4. As for the 13.1,they are not stock,we have about 4 or 5 in the stang club and they do not get that time if they are stock.
Very much a drivers race!
7/11/05, 12:42 AM
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The manual Mach 1 was a different animal than an automatic. The auto had a lower power rating and a redline (6000 vs 6800 rpm). The dyno numbers are very close so it should be a driver's race with a manual trans and a pretty easy race for an automatic 05 GT with the new 5 speed trans. All even, I think the manual Mach 1 would barely edge the 05 GT because of the higher redline.
7/11/05, 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by 1trickpony@July 10, 2005, 11:45 PM
The manual Mach 1 was a different animal than an automatic.
For sure!
All even, I think the manual Mach 1 would barely edge the 05 GT because of the higher redline.
The manual Mach 1 was a different animal than an automatic.
For sure!
All even, I think the manual Mach 1 would barely edge the 05 GT because of the higher redline.
I bought the new '05 "bodystyle" & "upgrades", but I have a lot of respect for the Mach's, if the driver knows what they are doing. Same with the SS, put down two of each so far, but had the biggest problem to-date with an old IROC. The Iroc was modded.....I know it had gears and exhaust....don't know anything else, but what I witnessed.
As far as the Mach's, I'd rather have that engine :worship, if it were lighter.
As far as the Camaro SS, they can have a field day with their mods. :worship: If they have the money which most don't!
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7/11/05, 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by PACETTR@July 11, 2005, 3:34 PM
All things equal the Mach is .3 - .4 and 3 - 4 mph quicker in the 1/4...
All things equal the Mach is .3 - .4 and 3 - 4 mph quicker in the 1/4...
7/11/05, 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by PACETTR@July 11, 2005, 4:34 PM
All things equal the Mach is .3 - .4 and 3 - 4 mph quicker in the 1/4...
All things equal the Mach is .3 - .4 and 3 - 4 mph quicker in the 1/4...
This is per Scothew on a topic of a stock Mach breaking into the 12's:
You guys forget, mach1 engines were designed with one thing in mind. A great trq curve. They make alot better midrange power than most n/a cobra's. They have a slightly different cam profile which helps tremendously.
Also they have a better suspension package which helps in the weight transfer quite a bit. Plus the 3.55 gears in a solid rear axle is going to do alot better than a 99+ cobra with its weaker IRS that unless heavily modified will wheel hop enough to break a half-shaft on street tires.
I dont doubt the 12.95 on a stock car, but the guy is a great driver and knows his car better than he knows how to wipe his own rear. Power shifting is a must in order to acheive times like that, which I dont condone on a stock shifter equipped tranny (kiss the shift forks goodbye after time).
Also they have a better suspension package which helps in the weight transfer quite a bit. Plus the 3.55 gears in a solid rear axle is going to do alot better than a 99+ cobra with its weaker IRS that unless heavily modified will wheel hop enough to break a half-shaft on street tires.
I dont doubt the 12.95 on a stock car, but the guy is a great driver and knows his car better than he knows how to wipe his own rear. Power shifting is a must in order to acheive times like that, which I dont condone on a stock shifter equipped tranny (kiss the shift forks goodbye after time).
7/11/05, 03:41 PM
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I have driven both on the same day at the same track. Neither was my car and I had no seat time up until I made my first pass. I ran a 13.2@105 in a stock 04 Mach 1 5 speed and 13.5@102 in a stock 05 GT
7/11/05, 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by qwik huh@July 11, 2005, 3:44 PM
I have driven both on the same day at the same track. Neither was my car and I had no seat time up until I made my first pass. I ran a 13.2@105 in a stock 04 Mach 1 5 speed and 13.5@102 in a stock 05 GT
I have driven both on the same day at the same track. Neither was my car and I had no seat time up until I made my first pass. I ran a 13.2@105 in a stock 04 Mach 1 5 speed and 13.5@102 in a stock 05 GT
having had both,I can agree with that.I think if the '05 had a SCT or pred tune things would be more even.The electronic throttle and torque management hinder the '05 GT.
7/13/05, 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by ZRX4ME@July 11, 2005, 10:24 PM
having had both,I can agree with that.I think if the '05 had a SCT or pred tune things would be more even.The electronic throttle and torque management hinder the '05 GT.
having had both,I can agree with that.I think if the '05 had a SCT or pred tune things would be more even.The electronic throttle and torque management hinder the '05 GT.
7/13/05, 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by stkdidy@July 12, 2005, 8:00 PM
all i know is i killed a mach1 last friday by a car and a half or more
it def had exhaust, but i doubt anything else...and i have a few tricks up mah sleeve
all i know is i killed a mach1 last friday by a car and a half or more
it def had exhaust, but i doubt anything else...and i have a few tricks up mah sleeve
Find a Mach 1 with 4:10s and try again
