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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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Long tubes vs O/R H pipe

So I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's going to be worth it to get long tube headers. I can get an h pipe for like $160 while the headers and all involve are gonna be like $450. I don't mind spending the money but if the headers aren't gonna give me a substantial advantage it doesn't seem worth it. Can anyone lay some knowledge on me?
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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So I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's going to be worth it to get long tube headers. I can get an h pipe for like $160 while the headers and all involve are gonna be like $450. I don't mind spending the money but if the headers aren't gonna give me a substantial advantage it doesn't seem worth it. Can anyone lay some knowledge on me?
Long tube headers are so worth it. Here are my results after a dynotune and other simple modification:
Mods are SLP 1 3/4 primary long tube headers w/3in high flow cats and X-pipe and over axel
Steeda cold air intake and 170 degree thermostat.
The results at the dyno were 413 rwhp and 389 rwtq.
We got 487 at the engine.
93 tune
The dynotune was done on a hot day so my numbers would have been better if it was cooler.

http://s1133.photobucket.com/albums/...nt=TheDyno.mp4
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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If you get longtube you have to get a new midpipe too....
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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If you get longtube you have to get a new midpipe too....
Yea I'm aware lol
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by STUKUP2112

Long tube headers are so worth it. Here are my results after a dynotune and other simple modification:
Mods are SLP long tub headers w/high flow cats and X-pipe,
Steeda cold air intake and 170 degree thermostat.
The results at the dyno were 413 rwhp and 389 rwtq.
We got 487 at the engine.
93 tune
The dynotune was done on a hot day so my numbers would have been better if it was cooler.

http://s1133.photobucket.com/albums/...nt=TheDyno.mp4
Hmm wow that's like 70 horse. I know we've got different motors but if I can see gains relative to yours I'd be pretty stoked. Currently I have cams a CAI and axelbacks. If I could be between 300 and 350 rwhp I'd be pretty gassed. The guy at Bama said that with my current mods and tunes I should have like 310 rwhp. Dunno if I trust those guys lol
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by muscledom
Hmm wow that's like 70 horse. I know we've got different motors but if I can see gains relative to yours I'd be pretty stoked. Currently I have cams a CAI and axelbacks. If I could be between 300 and 350 rwhp I'd be pretty gassed. The guy at Bama said that with my current mods and tunes I should have like 310 rwhp. Dunno if I trust those guys lol
How much horsepower do you have curently ?
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by STUKUP2112

How much horsepower do you have curently ?
The guy at Bama says I should have about 310rwhp. But I've never been dynoed
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by muscledom
The guy at Bama says I should have about 310rwhp. But I've never been dynoed
Since you are cammed you should go for the longtubes. Those manifolds are restricting your gains.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Since you are cammed you should go for the longtubes. Those manifolds are restricting your gains.
Yea that's kinda what I was thinking. Just wanted some final opinions
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by muscledom
The guy at Bama says I should have about 310rwhp. But I've never been dynoed
Get a CAI with some long tube headers so you can get it all dyno tuned at the same time and you should be around 370-380rwhp
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by STUKUP2112
Get a CAI with some long tube headers so you can get it all dyno tuned at the same time and you should be around 370-380rwhp
Yea I have a CAI, I'm waiting to get a few more bolt ons before I get dyno tuned. Right now I have a CAI, cams, 410s, and FM ABs. I wanna at least have my headers and a throttle body before I get dyno tuned. That's the plan at the moment anyway...
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by muscledom
Yea I have a CAI, I'm waiting to get a few more bolt ons before I get dyno tuned. Right now I have a CAI, cams, 410s, and FM ABs. I wanna at least have my headers and a throttle body before I get dyno tuned. That's the plan at the moment anyway...
To be honest with you, a throttle body may not be worth the money. I hear you will get only 2 to 4 extra horsepower, at least on my car. It might be the same with yours. But if it makes you feel better then get it.

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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by STUKUP2112

To be honest with you, a throttle body may not be worth the money. I hear you will get only 2 to 4 extra horsepower, at least on my car. It might be the same with yours. But if it makes you feel better then get it.
Yea that's true. I really only want it for the throttle response anyway. What's the going rate for a dyno tune?
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 06:59 PM
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Yea that's true. I really only want it for the throttle response anyway. What's the going rate for a dyno tune?
$300.00 but for my car there is no software. So they have to use SCT X-caliber hand held tuner then fine tune it with their laptop. So that an extra $375.00 to buy the hand held. Total $675.00 plus tax. I dont know about yours.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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LT and high flow x pipe with stock mufflers gave my car a whole new sound and pep. I know mine is a lil ol 4.6 but you will get the same satisfaction that I did from this upgrade.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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What throttle body are you going to be going with?

On the 3V a good set of L/Ts are going to get you around 30-40HP
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Probably just the BBK 62mm. I'll probably get an off road h pipe with the tubes
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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I would def get the long tubes. $450? What brand? That's a great price
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 05:59 AM
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I would def get the long tubes. $450? What brand? That's a great price
They're pacesetter
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