So...what do we do with the vendors that advertise the throttle body gains in h.p. and torque?....

 

I've had a very reputable tuner in my area tell me that a larger throttle body is a complete waste of money for my car.

 

Guys, I feel bad about some of your results. I was the one who helped push the group buy for the LFP TB. The outcome, for some of you, was not what we all hoping for. Unfortunately, I never received my TB and was unable to test for myself and provide my own feedback.

Feel free to leave choice words for me in a PM - it may help you release some frustrations.

-Bryan

 

Bryan don't feel bad, I've had mine for some time now and really like the piece. It did get rid of more of the dreaded throttle delay and also added some seat of the pants HP/T on my car. I like the piece and it looks great. You know as well as I do that theses cars all take to MODS in their own way. You could do the same mods on a car setup the same way and they would react differently. They all have their own personality.
Thanks for the effort to help us get a better price for this TB.
Sorry to hear about the Stang, but I know it will come back even stronger.

Steve

 

I feel that if you were to go Supercharged or even add nitrous to a car that the larger TB may help more but in N/a trim it's not a great improvement. Also if you were looking to add every bolt on you could It could do more. Like headers, full exhaust, and so on. it's still a good peice just not for a completely stock car as is mine.

Also, hold off on the Jet spacer, I got mine in last night and I'm headed back to the dyno this weekend

Thanks, Doug.

 

Hum, strange post. I saw an average of 9 RWHP on a stock GT with bolt on TB only after 4 pulls, made as much as 13 with a cold pull over the stock pulls, and as little as 5 on a hot pull. Not much for seat of the pants or 1/4 mile time improvements. Same car tuned with the LFP throttle body made 24 RWHP over the stock pulls. So that was a combination or tuning and TB. The tuning was done by me using SCT Advantage and all done on a Dyno Jet, know for their giving numbers. The two cars I have driven after installing the TB were by far more fun to drive, and improved throttle responce over any stock setup I have tuned, driven, raced. It is a noticeable difference even on the dyno and how easy it is to acheive a constant rpm.
Yes I do sell for and tune for LFP, and those that know me know that doesn't mean squat. I am in no way bios to any vendor, and will always tell it like it is, good or bad. The TB is a good looking piece, does improve throttle responce, and will add minimal power on a NA engine. I will be testing one on a Saleen setup just as soon as I get one that will bolt up to that SC.

SCT Performance Tuning by Andre

 

Just goes to show YA all cars are not the same.

 

1 Post and he is trying to push a product, go home!

-Dan

 

Why be rude? Andre is a very knowledgable tuner and is here to help, especially anyone with LFP TB.

-Bryan

 

even if he is a knowledgable guy he is here for only 1 thing and thats trying to soften the hit that other tuners are saying about this product so some money can be made. This is just how I see it.

If he wanted to really correct what was going on he would be working with these other tuners to find out why they arent getting the same numbers that he has.

Just my opinion.

-Dan

 

It is not his product, he does not work for LFP. He is an independant tuner who happens to makes tunes for the LFP TB. He installs JLT kits too, the LFP TB, S/C's, MMR Intakes, etc. - that does not mean he is some marketing arm for them or any other product he installs or tunes for.

Who is to say he has not spoken to other tuners? For all I know there are tuner meetings every Monday that they all attend . Let the facts come to light and let others help - rather than instantly attacking.

-Bryan

 

I'm quite certain he doesn't care in the slightest if you buy an LFP throttle body.

 

Well, All I need to know is that a throttle Body upgrade ultimately means squat just like it has for so many other Mustangs in the past.

You dont have to take my word for it, go find out for yourself, I wont care.

-Dan

 

Todd - a little sidebar - I have fallen out of step with your progress - is the Saleen installed and up to full operating capacity??

 

Guess I'll have to get mine dynoed and see what the results show to verify Andres point.
Anyway, it's ultimately up to you if you want to try a bolt on or not.
I know it helped my car out.

Steve

 

Welcome Andre. Been a long time...

No doubt its a top notch quality piece...

 

Well my tuning was done on a dyno jet as well with the JLT air intake kit and the stock air intake and it didn't prove anything. I dont care if I tune it or someone in california tunes to it 24hp with a tune is mostly the tune. We did back to back runs with it and actually lost some HP on the top end with the TB. Now, I can say that there are differences between dynos and tuning but if there were enough HP to be gained to make 24 rwhp extra from the TB then I would have atleast seen 7-10rwhp from it on my car.

Run 5 was without it with the JLT
Run 6 was with it with the JLT

Yes, 2 rwhp is the difference between dyno runs so I can't properly say that it made the car loose power but I can say that it didnt make it gain any.

 

I tested one of these in early October because we were getting ready to order 100 of them. Sadley I picked up less than 2 HP and 1 foot pound on a car with basic bolt ons and exhaust. I ended up not making the stocking order. It looked cool, but that was about it.

 

Yeah, we pegged the stock MAF at around 5K rpm when we dyno tuned it, but it's running strong now! I need to get back on the dyno so we can get it dialed in properly.



Check in on this thread:

http://www.modernengineuity.com/foru...ead.php?t=9610

388 rwhp / 381 rwtq

 

If there is one thing I never do, IT"S NEVER QUESTION ANOTHER TUNERS ABILITIES. We all have our own ways of acheiving a tuned vehicle. You will never see me or hear me bash another tuner. And yes you are right, not all cars are alike. Since I can't "SELL" anything here I will go away and leave you guys to your research for performance.