there is a difference in how the Diablo writes a tune when compared to the SCT. The Diablo backups one tune while it writes another. I'd rather be safe than sorry cause the SCT doesnt do that.

 

Like everyone else said you are definately looking in the wrong place for someone to blame here. The JLT intakes fit well.....Additional modifications causing poor fit cannot be blamed on them. I would also reccomend a switch to SCT....You will not regret it

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cleveland @ April 17, 2006, 7:46 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
there is a difference in how the Diablo writes a tune when compared to the SCT. The Diablo backups one tune while it writes another. I'd rather be safe than sorry cause the SCT doesnt do that.
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I don't understand. The SCT backs up the original tune when you connect the device the first time. Then you write the tune you want installed, choosing from one of three available. If there's a problem you can try another tune or reflash back to stock.

I'm down with "Better safe than sorry", but what exactly do you expect to go wrong that the Diablo will fix and the SCT won't? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img]

 

Love my jlt, love my bamachips sct tune. Like Reeses Peanut Butter cups, 2 great tastes that taste great together (except you don't eat them. So maybe not that much like Reeses. but you get the idea. Did I mention 4.10's are great too.)

I gotta go with Jay as I'll assume that fitment issues are more to do with combining parts than the engineering of the jlt.

 

My JLT2 has fit fine for 5 months now with no rubbing on anything anywhere.

I will admit, that I wasn't a huge fan of the initial "heatshield" -- thus I bought a MMR shield.

 

Love my JLT, and have Zero issues. For the money, it is definately the best bang for the buck.

As for your tune, as most have said, Diablo will not compare to the Xcal 2 used by 90% of the people in this forum.

Looks like most of your problems are TBS related, so ditch that and your fit should be perfect.

 

Love my JLT. If you figured it was because of the TBS, you should have mentioned it in your first post. This thread title comes off being very offensive to Jay, who clearly puts out a good product.

 

Thank you guys.
See this is the big problem with the internet. Someone posts a thread titled JLT... insert negitive comment here...
And others read it as gospel without even opening the thread to see 99% happy customers.
This is my livelyhood and I can't afford faulse accuations pointed in my direction for no reason.
All it would have took was a phone call, email or a quick post on here to ask... Hey, will a TB spacer work with a JLT?? and all this would have been avoided.
Dustin, I'm sorry your pipe is messed up, but please understand it's the spacer that caused it.

Jay

 

I agree that the spacer, though a fix for the early throttle lag issue, is not needed after the tune. Trash can the Pred. GO with Bama and JLT xcal 2. I got the torque tune 93 octane and am very happy with it.

JLT makes good stuff and when installing it, you have 3 clamps that can be adjusted a tweek here and there.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dustindu4 @ April 16, 2006, 10:24 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don't know why there's 2 threads on this, something happened, can an admin merge them please? Thanks. This one doesn't even have pictures

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=47017
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Done [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

Sorry to hear about the troubles you are having but so far it looks like this is an issue with most of the kits that use a straight pipe. The MMR intake I am using has the same issue. After upgrading to their high-flow tube, it just rests on the power steering pump, scratching away at the paint. I even had to remove the bracket that holds the air filter to the body (where the stock filter bolts down).

I guess it is the sacrafice we pay to have more horsepower.

Edit: I just went through all of the responses and ya, it makes sense that if you have a TBSpacer you are going to run into issues like this. I can just imagine how bad mine would be if I had a spacer. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]

 

no spacer on mine and it has been perfect for 11montths now.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tucker @ April 17, 2006, 12:48 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Dustin, I'm sorry your pipe is messed up, but please understand it's the spacer that caused it.
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It's cool. We all learn from our mistakes. If we share our mistakes they don't get repeated by other people. I don't think I made any conclusion that the intake was crap, in fact I like it very much. The original post was left open ended for discussion. I never made any conclusions.

boo the pictures are gone now

 

I have used the throttle body space in combination with my JLT for several months now without a problem. The key is when installing it, keep the hose clamps loose and shove the tube back away from the power steering reservoir, etc... Once in a position that is clear (it will look sort of crooked in the rubber elbow), tighten everything down very well.

As much as I would like to ditch the throttle body spacer, it does improve throttle response (even with Doug's tune). I've taken it off to test it and I notice enough of a difference that it is there to stay.

I agree about the heatshield--the first version was a piece of dung. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img] I took it off when I noticed that it was getting pushed against my lower radiator hose and vibrating against it, creating wear marks against the nylon mesh protective cover. No difference in performance without it that I notice.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Buck_Nekid @ April 17, 2006, 7:55 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don't understand. The SCT backs up the original tune when you connect the device the first time. Then you write the tune you want installed, choosing from one of three available. If there's a problem you can try another tune or reflash back to stock.

I'm down with "Better safe than sorry", but what exactly do you expect to go wrong that the Diablo will fix and the SCT won't? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img]
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No, I mean it backups every single time into the cars memory before proceeding. Not just the initial tune.

-Dan

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dustindu4 @ April 17, 2006, 8:36 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
It's cool. We all learn from our mistakes. If we share our mistakes they don't get repeated by other people. I don't think I made any conclusion that the intake was crap, in fact I like it very much. The original post was left open ended for discussion. I never made any conclusions.
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Well Dustin, I'm going to disagree with you on this one.
You most certinly made your conclusion and the title of the thread says it all. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>JLT II install woes, a little disappointed[/b][/quote]
That says nothing like... "hey does a TB spacer work with the JLT"

Comments like:
First line So I got my JLT a few weeks ago and I got some issues Conclusion drawn!

The tube was rubbing against the power steering resevoir and started putting a hole in my tube. I'm glad I didn't waste any money on painting my tube to match my car.

Think that's bad? It gets worse. The JLT intake unlike the K&N is completely unsupported, it just hangs there. Not only was it resting on the power steering resevoir, it was resting on
the brake lines

All these comments in the first post are your conclusion of the JLT intake. NOT the JLT intake AND TB spacer. No where do you state "do you think it's doing this because I have a TB spacer???"

All your issues actually had nothing to do with the JLT intake did they. Now people will skim through and read it rests on the brake lines and think oh my gosh, no way...

I'm sorry dude, but your post just trashed me and you don't even have the nerve to apologise. You just say "It's cool. We all learn from our mistakes" Really? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]

I can see you don't get how this can effect a buisness. Glad you like it now. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tucker @ April 18, 2006, 6:51 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>


All your issues actually had nothing to do with the JLT intake did they. Now people will skim through and read it rests on the brake lines and think oh my gosh, no way...

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Jay, mine does actually touch the brake line slightly (see pic in post #6). I've already tried adjusting both the filter and at the elbow. As you can see, I have it pushed back toward the engine as far as it will go. Like I said, it really doesn't bother me, but the condition does exist. I'm sure all JLTs are made the same and factory tolerances and position also contribute. Any thoughts on something I may have missed?

 

hope I dont get crucified for this:

I ran across the same problem with my JLT/TB spacer combo...


disclaimer: In no way do I fault JLT for the clearance issue...it was not made to sit where it does...









I took a dremel and just cut about 2 1/2 inches off the tube so that the filter would fit on right and the tube would be a better angle. No more issues with the P/S reservoir clearance...

(runs and hides from Jay)

 

If your running both, there's going to be fitment issues, so your comments are right on Machine.

It's the way Dustin approched the problem is where I have issue.

Jay

 

Machine, you wouldn't happen to have a picture of this, would you?

 

I have installed half a dozen JLT intakes in the last week including my own. I did not have any fitment problems on any of them. You guys are lucky to have a guy like Jay on here answering questions, concerns, etc. MANY manfacturers will not post on the boards for many reasons. With the exception of this board you usually have 100 happy customers that do not say a word and you get one that is unhappy and then 10 replies from people stating they would never buy ABC product because of it. Jay is right that a casual glance at this post would probably cause someone to think the JLT does not fit well which is simply not the case....