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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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So I got my JLT a few weeks ago and I got some issues. Let me go over the good and the bad.


I used to have the K&N intake. I wasn't happy with the performance gains it had so I switched to the JLT and got a DTP Racing tune in 93 and 87 octane for my Predator tuner. I sent a list of my engine mods to Brent (steeda pullies, water pump, 4.10s, JLT, TB spacer, Flowmasters) and for $100 he sent me the 2 tunes.

5.0 magazine got these numbers in a recent article with the JLT and DTP tune Peak Horsepower: 288.9 (27.9hp gain) Peak Torque: 303.5lb-ft (21.5-lb-ft gain)


So I put the JLT in

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When you compare the size of it to the K&N you can see how much bigger the pipe and filter are, which gives it those big numbers.

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Then I notice on the tube that there's a scratch or something on the tube, great. I don't know for sure if I got it like that. The kicker is it's right on the top where you can see it.

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I drive around with it for a week and look what happens. The tube was rubbing against the power steering resevoir and started putting a hole in my tube. I'm glad I didn't waste any money on painting my tube to match my car. Between that and the ding on the top I'm real glad I didn't get it painted.
Notice how there's like dust from the tube where it's rubbing.

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Now look at the spot on the tube [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif[/img]

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Think that's bad? It gets worse. The JLT intake unlike the K&N is completely unsupported, it just hangs there. Not only was it resting on the power steering resevoir, it was resting on

the brake lines
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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It looks like your TB spacer is pushing it into your P/S reservoir. I would sell that and get your tube smoothed and painted body color once you establish that it is no longer making contact. Then make some clever bracket design to support the filter end and sell the bracket plans back to JLT. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img]
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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I would consider the same thing. I've had my JLT2 installed since October, and it's never rubbed against the cap. It still looks like new, sorry that you've had trouble.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Get the heat shield!! I installed mine yesterday and it doesn't touch anything!! Jay's redseisgn is great!

BTW, Dustin, have you pulled any error codes with the JLT yet...under say...WOT?

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Stang @ April 16, 2006, 8:11 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Get the heat shield!! I installed mine yesterday and it doesn't touch anything!! Jay's redseisgn is great!

BTW, Dustin, have you pulled any error codes with the JLT yet...under say...WOT?

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HOw would u know ur getting error codes?
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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I've had mine on for several months now. Not even close to the cap, but it does touch the brake lines a little. It's definitely the throttle body spacer pushing it out. Also, hard to tell from the photos, but doesn't JLT's instructions say to put the long end of the elbow on the pipe? Your's may be reversed causing it to stick out even further.

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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I would have to agree that your TB probably has the tube pushed out against the reservoir and the heat shield should support the tube just fine. If you just bought the kit I'm sure that Jay would probably give you a deal on the shield. JMO~
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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That sucks, kinda glad now that I did not go with the JLT. From your pics, the quality is not there. I'd send it back.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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I don't know why there's 2 threads on this, something happened, can an admin merge them please? Thanks. This one doesn't even have pictures

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=47017
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Dustin I am sorry to see that dark cloud is still following you around. Every time I read about your endless problems I recall the Hee Haw song Gloom, Despair, Agony On Me If it weren't for bad luck you would have no luck at all. Wish I knew what to tell you to snap out of it but I do not have a clue.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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yeah well wait till you see what the problem is with the DTP tune
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dustindu4 @ April 16, 2006, 9:24 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don't know why there's 2 threads on this, something happened, can an admin merge them please? Thanks. This one doesn't even have pictures
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This thread originally had the pics, at least it did when I posted. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 05:54 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Baginoman2 @ April 16, 2006, 7:56 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
HOw would u know ur getting error codes?
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You'll see the CEL come on. It will annoy you. You can then hook up the Xcal 2 and read the codes.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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I'm interested in seeing the DTP tune issue since that's what I use.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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can an admin please merge these threads? I don't know how it got split and the other doesnt have all the pics

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=47011
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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So let me understand this correct. Your using a throttle body spacer that pushes the throttle body forward and the rubbing on the P/S tank is the fault of the JLT??? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]


I'm at a total lose here on how this is a JLT issue and 2 threads needed to be posted?
Should this not be a spacer issue instead of a JLT issue??? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img]

as seen in all JLT pics on this forum, the other thread and pics on the JLT site and directions, in no way should the kit touch anything including the brake lines and P/S tank.

Sir, I apologise for the rubbing issue caused by you installing a throttle body spacer.

When mating 2 aftermarket parts that make up the intake track, test fitting is needed and modifications may be needed.

Thank you for your understanding.

Jay
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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See other thread for responce.

Jay
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:34 AM
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Jay,

Dustin, did point out he wasn't sure how 2 threads got created.

"I don't know why there's 2 threads on this, something happened, can an admin merge them please? Thanks. This one doesn't even have pictures"

Also I think he's concerned but probably realizes the TB spacer is at fault here.

Is it possible you could post better pictures of the new heat shield, as I'm concerned also with the filter just hanging there, and in Dustin's case rubbing on the old style heat shield.

Thanks,
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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My guess it was the spacer as well. That thing is worthless, I should just take it off.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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It defenitely is the spacer, I installed my JLT I yesterday, and there's no issues anywhere, straight forward, then again, I don't have the TB Spacer.
Another thing is, why don't you give SCT X-2 a try? I had the Predator, and when I flash the car yesterday with the X-2, man, what a difference! with the predator was "turn key on, off, on, off, on, off, do a cartwheel, on, off", I was getting annoyed. With the X-2 was "turn key on... off, you are done".
And of course, if you get the SCT, you gotta go with Doug from bamachips.
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