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Installing delete plates, is the valve motor needed?

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Old 2/8/07, 05:32 PM
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Installing delete plates, is the valve motor needed?

Is there really anything keeping me from just removing the motor for the factory butterfly valves? From what I understand, you disconnect the motor anyhow, does it really need to stay there? I am kind of flying blind putting these things in, as I got the ones from Ford.
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I took mine off. I taped up the plug though just in case for "weather proofing" and then wire tied it to the intake manifold so it wouldn't flop around or make noise.
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No it's not neccesary and can be removed.
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Does removing the motor do the same thing as replacing the plates? I assume that the butterflys are open. If true, what is the reason for replacing the plates?
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Bunches of info here........http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...highlight=CMRC
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I removed it
Tom, I did read through that thread, and it was helpful once I got down into the nitty gritty of the install. I appreciate the replies.

And on a different note, I went to upload my new tune from Doug onto my Xcal2, and noticed this one is in .ll3 format. The first tune he sent me about a year ago was in the .xtr format. Do I need to update my Xcal, or do I need the other format?? I already emailed Doug, but I need my car in the morning and I want to give myself the best chance possible of getting an answer tonight!
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Can anybody tell me what these parts are doing? I don't understand why there should be more power by installing these parts.
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With the stock cmrc plates, even when the butterflies are wide open, there is still a restriction there. The bar that the butterflies are riveted to is still an obstruction in the airway and it causes turbulence. Lack of cmrc's also allows for a more aggressive tune. These are one of the best mods you can do to these cars.
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Originally Posted by Mydnyghte
I removed it
Tom, I did read through that thread, and it was helpful once I got down into the nitty gritty of the install. I appreciate the replies.

And on a different note, I went to upload my new tune from Doug onto my Xcal2, and noticed this one is in .ll3 format. The first tune he sent me about a year ago was in the .xtr format. Do I need to update my Xcal, or do I need the other format?? I already emailed Doug, but I need my car in the morning and I want to give myself the best chance possible of getting an answer tonight!
Download the latest version of liveload and the upload the tune to the Xcal. http://sctflash.com/software/liveload131.exe
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Originally Posted by Pro Mod
With the stock cmrc plates, even when the butterflies are wide open, there is still a restriction there. The bar that the butterflies are riveted to is still an obstruction in the airway and it causes turbulence. Lack of cmrc's also allows for a more aggressive tune. These are one of the best mods you can do to these cars.
Yes on the action of removing the plates, but I wouldn't say it's one of the best mods you can do. You're only talking about 5-10rwhp gain. Do a CAI and throw some UDPs in there to free up some horsey's and now you're talking 25-35rwhp. But for $90...may as well do the plates too, right?
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Thanks Scramblr
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Originally Posted by Mydnyghte
Thanks Scramblr
Sounds like it worked!!!
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Originally Posted by scramblr
Sounds like it worked!!!
Yes sir, it did. I had checked out their website to see what I could find, and it was confusing. I've had my car 2 years now, and this whole tuning business is still pretty new to me, and I was afraid I would end up disabling my Xcal2 somehow
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Originally Posted by Dougxox
Does removing the motor do the same thing as replacing the plates? I assume that the butterflys are open. If true, what is the reason for replacing the plates?
Hey dude where you been? I thought you might be moved or something. How about sending a PM with your E address.
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