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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Bill, congrats on getting everything all sorted out, rebuilt, and retuned. As I have the same Vortech V2 on my 07 GT, wanted to share some of my thoughts on the 387/354 you put down on the rollers.

Consider that Vortech advertises our blower at 420/385 flywheel hp/tq (with the stock pulley and non-cooled, like our cars)...
  • On a manual transmission, that should yield 357/327 at the tires. You exceeded those figures by 30/27, even though you're down on compression ratio vs stock pistons.
  • On an automatic, that should yield 336/308 at the tires. My car was in that ballpark with 351/304, even though I ran my heavy 18" wheels/tires through a very loose (4800 rpm) stall converter & 4.10 gears on a Mustang Chassis Dyno (which tends to read lower than Dynojets by about 5-10%).
So, I'd say that you and I both got better numbers than Vortech advertises for the non-cooled V2 blower. And, more importantly, you & I are both much more conservative than many others (gee, I wonder why!) and are happy with our very conservative street tunes.

351 rwhp in my heavy 07 GT automatic is good enough for consistent 12.30's @ 111 mph in the 1/4 mile, which was my original goal when I bought the supercharger. Bill, no reason why your 387 rwhp wouldn't net you 12.00's at 114+ mph in the 1/4 mile (maybe even 11.90's in the right weather). That's a fast street car, my friend.

As already noted, adding the aftercooler would allow much more aggressive tuning and a smaller pulley. These V2 S-trim blowers can supposedly support engines up to 680hp (per Vortech's website), so there is far more potential left to tap into, and far more than anyone could really need in a regularly driven street vehicle.

Again, congrats. And remember, while dyno #'s make for great conversation, it's timeslips that make for bragging rights.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
Bill, congrats on getting everything all sorted out, rebuilt, and retuned. As I have the same Vortech V2 on my 07 GT, wanted to share some of my thoughts on the 387/354 you put down on the rollers.

Consider that Vortech advertises our blower at 420/385 flywheel hp/tq (with the stock pulley and non-cooled, like our cars)...
  • On a manual transmission, that should yield 357/327 at the tires. You exceeded those figures by 30/27, even though you're down on compression ratio vs stock pistons.
  • On an automatic, that should yield 336/308 at the tires. My car was in that ballpark with 351/304, even though I ran my heavy 18" wheels/tires through a very loose (4800 rpm) stall converter & 4.10 gears on a Mustang Chassis Dyno (which tends to read lower than Dynojets by about 5-10%).
So, I'd say that you and I both got better numbers than Vortech advertises for the non-cooled V2 blower. And, more importantly, you & I are both much more conservative than many others (gee, I wonder why!) and are happy with our very conservative street tunes.

351 rwhp in my heavy 07 GT automatic is good enough for consistent 12.30's @ 111 mph in the 1/4 mile, which was my original goal when I bought the supercharger. Bill, no reason why your 387 rwhp wouldn't net you 12.00's at 114+ mph in the 1/4 mile (maybe even 11.90's in the right weather). That's a fast street car, my friend.

As already noted, adding the aftercooler would allow much more aggressive tuning and a smaller pulley. These V2 S-trim blowers can supposedly support engines up to 680hp (per Vortech's website), so there is far more potential left to tap into, and far more than anyone could really need in a regularly driven street vehicle.

Again, congrats. And remember, while dyno #'s make for great conversation, it's timeslips that make for bragging rights.
What times do you hope to run Bill?

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
And remember, while dyno #'s make for great conversation, it's timeslips that make for bragging rights.
Great post Brian, thanks.

I do intend on taking it to the track once I get wider tires out back. The stock 235's just aren't going to cut it.




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What times do you hope to run Bill?
Around -1 second to whatever you're running.

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
Great post Brian, thanks.

I do intend on taking it to the track once I get wider tires out back. The stock 235's just aren't going to cut it.





Around -1 second to whatever you're running.


Talk is cheap... when will you show me



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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
Great post Brian, thanks.

I do intend on taking it to the track once I get wider tires out back. The stock 235's just aren't going to cut it.





Around -1 second to whatever you're running.

Neither are street tires. Even if they are 305's.

On beating Luis....That's what Brian thought too.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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yeah.... I haven't raced Luis and that being said it's hard to lose to someone you haven't raced.



Bill.... Since no one else will... My DRs are yours to use to kicked these guys a$$.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by habu
yeah.... I haven't raced Luis and that being said it's hard to lose to someone you haven't raced.



Bill.... Since no one else will... My DRs are yours to use to kicked these guys a$$.
Hater


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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Fontana street legal drags are this saturday....Why don't you guys settle this like gentlemen and take it to the track!


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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CooBra07
Fontana street legal drags are this saturday....Why don't you guys settle this like gentlemen and take it to the track!


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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by superfly s197
Hater


Hey... hate the game not the playa




Um... yeah, Barona Sunday.. Be There
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by habu
Hey... hate the game not the playa




Um... yeah, Barona Sunday.. Be There



Alright, Leo's letting me have a run with the drag radials... care for a run


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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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I have a question about bills car. What hapened to it to need forged stuff? Or did he build his block up just in case?

Just wondering. Nice numbers btw. 100+ more to the wheels on a stang is mighty nice in my book.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by superfly s197



Alright, Leo's letting me have a run with the drag radials... care for a run


Um..... I don't know



Of course I'll take you on. Leo set up the pins it's just gonna take one of us (me) to know 'em down. Bring you're A game dude.




Originally Posted by jaguarking11
I have a question about bills car. What hapened to it to need forged stuff? Or did he build his block up just in case?

Just wondering. Nice numbers btw. 100+ more to the wheels on a stang is mighty nice in my book.
Old motor went boom. There is a thread around here somewhere but I am too lazy to search.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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Make sure your palms aren't sweaty. One slip up and I'm gloating over it


I wins a win.



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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by superfly s197
Talk is cheap... when will you show me
Hey Fly, talk to the hand until you go Forced Induction.

(Fly on the left)





Originally Posted by LEO_06GT
On beating Luis....That's what Brian thought too.
Yeah, yeah... that's why I spanked yo azz twice on the street. That had to leave some scars.




Originally Posted by habu
Bill.... Since no one else will... My DRs are yours to use to kicked these guys a$$.
Thanks Brian. I just might to make those 2 guys STFU.




Originally Posted by jaguarking11
I have a question about bills car. What hapened to it to need forged stuff? Or did he build his block up just in case?
Like Brian mentioned, stock motor went south while I was heading north. It was ugly.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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[QUOTE=TacoBill;5700547]Hey Fly, talk to the hand until you go Forced Induction.

(Fly on the left)






QUOTE]



HAHAHAA!!!
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
Thanks Brian. I just might to make those 2 guys STFU.
Does that mean you'll come down and join us with your boyfriend aka Brian? :gay:


I don't plan to STFU anytime soon





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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by superfly s197
Does that mean you'll come down and join us with your boyfriend aka Brian? :gay:
Hey, I wouldn't throw up the gay flag if I were you, I'm not the one who'll be sharing a bed with Leo and Brian Saturday night.
And let me guess, the one with the slowest car will be the catcher?



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I don't plan to STFU anytime soon
You will when Chris shoves his foot up yo azz!
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
Hey, I wouldn't throw up the gay flag if I were you, I'm not the one who'll be sharing a bed with Leo and Brian Saturday night.
And let me guess, the one with the slowest car will be the catcher?




You will when Chris shoves his foot up yo azz!



I hope it rains Saturday when you're driving


I'm only kidding of course.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by superfly s197
I hope it rains Saturday when you're driving
And I hope it rains at the track.


Hey, back to topic!


Here's my dyno graph..
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