Hawk HPS vs Carbotech
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Hawk HPS vs Carbotech
Someone (in another thread a while back) here recomended Carbotech pads and I am wondering which you guys think is better Carbotech or Hawk?
I am planning a mild brake inprovement of just new pads, probably some new takeoff rotors and replace the brake fluid with DOT4. The car is a DD and will only see occasional Auto-X duty for fun, nothing serious. For now however I'd like to stay in the "Stock" class so braided steel lines are out.
So what do you guys think?
I am planning a mild brake inprovement of just new pads, probably some new takeoff rotors and replace the brake fluid with DOT4. The car is a DD and will only see occasional Auto-X duty for fun, nothing serious. For now however I'd like to stay in the "Stock" class so braided steel lines are out.
So what do you guys think?
#2
It was likely myself that recommended the Carbotech's. I have driven on both the Hawk HPS and the Carbotech bobcat compound and still prefer the Carbotech.
Under performance street driving, and auto-x conditions the Carbotech has better initial bite, works a bit better at slightly cooler temperatures and doesn't dust as much. However I will caution that you can melt these pads if you get too aggressive with them. They're not made for open tracking, and I don't know if I'd auto-x with them on a high powered car wearing R compound rubber. But then I wouldn't do that with the Hawk HPS either.
Either pad is good, but the initial bite of the Carbotech pad is just SOOO confidence inspiring. You touch the brake pedal and it instantly starts biting and hauling you down. It's much like the change from the stock tuning to an aftermarket tune in relation to throttle response.
Add a set of steel braided lines and that pedal feel gets that much better.
My recommendation is to go with a quality stock replacement rotor (whether a black or cross-drilled/slotted, that's up to you) a set of stainless braided soft lines, the Carbotech bobcat compound at all four corners and ATE Super Blue of Motul 600 DOT4 brake fluid.
For spirited street driving and a bit of auto-x I don't think you'll find a better setup on a mustang for the money.
Under performance street driving, and auto-x conditions the Carbotech has better initial bite, works a bit better at slightly cooler temperatures and doesn't dust as much. However I will caution that you can melt these pads if you get too aggressive with them. They're not made for open tracking, and I don't know if I'd auto-x with them on a high powered car wearing R compound rubber. But then I wouldn't do that with the Hawk HPS either.
Either pad is good, but the initial bite of the Carbotech pad is just SOOO confidence inspiring. You touch the brake pedal and it instantly starts biting and hauling you down. It's much like the change from the stock tuning to an aftermarket tune in relation to throttle response.
Add a set of steel braided lines and that pedal feel gets that much better.
My recommendation is to go with a quality stock replacement rotor (whether a black or cross-drilled/slotted, that's up to you) a set of stainless braided soft lines, the Carbotech bobcat compound at all four corners and ATE Super Blue of Motul 600 DOT4 brake fluid.
For spirited street driving and a bit of auto-x I don't think you'll find a better setup on a mustang for the money.
#3
Thanks Jason...I think I've decided on the Carbotech pads I'm now trying to decide how much I can afford to throw at the brakes at this point. I'd like to do the SS braided lines but I'd like to find them cheaper, looks like they went up. I thought they were $175 now it looks like they are $220ish.
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