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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 06:29 AM
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Gears..3.31 to???

Debating on swapping out the gears. Since stock is 3.31, im thinking either 3.73 or 4.10. I won't be dragging much at all (not enuff time)...except for stop light to stop light. note that these are combined with my 3500 stall TC.

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Colby, our automatics work very well with 4.10's. I've often thought I should have gone with 4.30's or 4.56's in retrospect, but the 4.10's are the bare minimum I'd consider for our heavy automatics. My GT is a daily driver, and 4.10's are great on the street (and the occasional trip down the dragstrip). IMO, 3.73's just aren't enough gear for our setups.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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FO TENS
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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xaxaxa FO TENS how ghetto

I went with 4.10's (FO TENS) but haven't installed yet so i can't give any feedback but since you said from ligtht to light definetely 4.10 quicker launch!
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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I still have my FO TENS in the garage from last year lol
FO TENS + winter don't mix so I was waiting till it was nice
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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Get a gear calculator spread sheet. You RPMs will increase by about 22% and your MPG will be reduced on the highway by 10 to 12%. I went with 3.73s and have posted numerous times on the observed effects.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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I just had 3.73's installed in my auto GT and I really like it. I want to get a PI torque converter some
day and I was worried about traction on the street with 4.10's even before a higher stall converter.

Wayne
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Here Colby. Use this to calculate engine rpm.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html

or this one.

http://www.corral.net/tech/gearcalc.html

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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Depends a bit if you drive more highway or city. The 3.73 is more highway friendly, but the 4.1 exerts less stress on the drivetrain in normal city driving. I have 4.30s in a box still, and while I'm hesitant about the 20% increase in highway rpm, I don't think the amount of highway driving I do is enough for me not to do the swap (I'm at 3.55 now)
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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Went 3:73's but I am F/I with a manual. Also I drive the pike to get to work. I felt 4:10's would have been a bit much.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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I didn't buy my GT with gas mileage inmind so I definitely say go with the 4.10's and a nice race tune! Normally I only get about 14 to 16 mpg since I'm usually running around in 3rd gear. Now I did just do a trip from NJ to Florida and back. I averaged 22 mpg (anywhere from 65 to 100ish mph) running Bamachips 93 Street Tune which I'm happy with. My Mustang isn't my DD so gas isn't a concern. I use the Scion xa for my commuter @ 33 mpg w/a 90 mile roundtrip. So if you have a DD def go w/the 4.10's.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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I just picked up my car from install of a 4.10 ring/pinion yesterday. Honestly, it's not enough. In retrospect I should have probably gone with a 4.30.

It completely transforms the car. Even with these 4.10's in the rear I would have no issues putting a blower on this as it sits.

Unless your car spends a majority of it's time on a highway, go with at least a 4.10, if not lower.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jlmounce
I just picked up my car from install of a 4.10 ring/pinion yesterday. Honestly, it's not enough. In retrospect I should have probably gone with a 4.30.

It completely transforms the car. Even with these 4.10's in the rear I would have no issues putting a blower on this as it sits.

Unless your car spends a majority of it's time on a highway, go with at least a 4.10, if not lower.

See that's the dilemma I have, 4.10s or 4.30s? I'm afraid I'll want more. Have 3.55's already. I take it your GT is a manual?
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Good info guys. JL, what did u pay total? Assuming 175ish for the 4.10 Frpp. I think 4.10 is what ill do. It is my main car tho I have a truck also.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jlmounce
I just picked up my car from install of a 4.10 ring/pinion yesterday. Honestly, it's not enough. In retrospect I should have probably gone with a 4.30.

It completely transforms the car. Even with these 4.10's in the rear I would have no issues putting a blower on this as it sits.

Unless your car spends a majority of it's time on a highway, go with at least a 4.10, if not lower.
You must not want a 1st gear lol
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
You must not want a 1st gear lol
That's called 4.56
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixie_Flatline
See that's the dilemma I have, 4.10s or 4.30s? I'm afraid I'll want more. Have 3.55's already. I take it your GT is a manual?
Yes my GT is a manual. Although 4.10's are seemingly low, I've driven cars with total final driven ratios of far less. Top of 2nd gear is right at 60 which is about perfect IMHO.

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Good info guys. JL, what did u pay total? Assuming 175ish for the 4.10 Frpp. I think 4.10 is what ill do. It is my main car tho I have a truck also.
I purchased FRPP gears plus the install kit and the bearing kit with redline oil. It was about $375 for all of that. Install was $450.00 which wasn't the cheapest I was quoted, but also wasn't anywhere near the highest either.

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You must not want a 1st gear lol
Top of 1st gear is about 35ish which is decent. I've had cars that from the factory are geared lower. So far I haven't noticed myself disliking the shortened 1st gear.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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The original posters car is an auto trans car. You need to remember that 1st and 2nd gears in our auto cars are a lower than the manuals. I have heard some say that putting 4.10's in these auto's that 1st gear particularly in very short. Almost useless. Personally I believe 3.90's would be ideal. But Ford racing doesn't offer them. I have also been considering gears and can't decide between 3.73's or 4.10's. I live in the country and 80% of my driving is 55 mph or above. I sure would like to drive someone's auto with 4.10's before I make a final decision for me.

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Thats it then... Scott get 4.10's and let me know.. lol
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Hey Brian or other autos with 4.10's. Any chance you can break down where 1st and 2nd max out at? Believe ive heard u say 70mph was at 2900rpms? Or am i off?
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