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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixie_Flatline
Because they pay the $millions for the recalls. If an aftermarket company ever saw a forced recall campaign like that, they'd be out of business. Poof!

But Ford does things for cost reasons first and foremost. They are a company historically run by cost conscious decisions, not sales conscious decisions. So it could be assumed that the enthusiast would realize better performance gains with an aftermarket tune & CAI than with a Ford one that is constrained by a salaried legal staff kept on retainer.

But the everyday consumer wouldn't invest the time or extra-time in figuring all this stuff out or posting on enthusiast forums. So if the system spurted out an anomaly, they'd go and gripe to Ford, who's legally responsible for providing the safe vehicle.

It's up to us to make our cars unsafe enough to be fun.
I really hate to disagree, but it's not Ford who covers the warranty on the FRPP flash tool. It's Ford Racing Performance Parts.

For it clearly states, under the Ford Racing Limited Warranty Statement. The following conditions.

1. Ford Motor Company, The American Road, Dearborn, MI 48025, provides a Limited Warranty on select Ford Racing performance parts when installed by a Ford, Lincoln or Mercury Dealer and Shelby Automotive Inc. This warranty replaces the existing
manufactures warranty. This warranty is valid for the original retail purchaser of the vehicle and is transferable to subsequent owners. This Limited Warranty is valid only when proof of purchase is registered by the installing dealer by contacting the Ford Racing Call
Center at 1(800) 367-3788


2. WARNING NOTICE:
Ford Racing Parts are not Genuine Ford Parts. All Ford Racing Parts are aftermarket parts. Therefore, they may not be used in any application that requires the use of Genuine Ford Parts. The use of Ford Racing parts and components is likely to increase
horsepower which may cause damage to the vehicle driveline and adversely affect other performance characteristics. Such damage is the sole responsibility of the consumer and is not covered by this Limited Warranty. Consumers are solely and completely
responsible for evaluating their vehicle to ensure that the vehicle, and each part of that vehicle, is appropriate for this Ford Racing part or component. It is the consumer's sole responsibility to have the performance enhancement parts properly installed on their
vehicle along with any modifications that are necessary for the proper performance of the vehicle.


3. Vehicle damage caused by a consumer's failure to modify the vehicle properly for use of one or more Ford Racing parts and components is not covered by this Limited Warranty and is the sole responsibility of the consumer. This Limited Warranty and/or the New
Vehicle Limited Warranty on your vehicle may be voided, either in whole or
in part, where the vehicle has been damaged due to a consumer's failure to modify the vehicle properly as necessary for use of Ford Racing parts and components.

4. Warranty Start Date - This limited warranty begins upon dealer installation and registration
of the Ford Racing Performance Pack(s) with Ford Racing and ends at either 3 years/36,000
miles (whichever occurs first) when installed on a new vehicle at the time of vehicle sale or 12
months/12,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for all installations occurring after the date of
vehicle sale but prior to the expiration of the 3 years/36,000 mile coverage (whichever occurs
first) under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
I really hate to disagree, but it's not Ford who covers the warranty on the FRPP flash tool. It's Ford Racing Performance Parts.

For it clearly states, under the Ford Racing Limited Warranty Statement. The following conditions.

1. Ford Motor Company, The American Road, Dearborn, MI 48025, provides a Limited Warranty on select Ford Racing performance parts when installed by a Ford, Lincoln or Mercury Dealer and Shelby Automotive Inc. This warranty replaces the existing
manufactures warranty. This warranty is valid for the original retail purchaser of the vehicle and is transferable to subsequent owners. This Limited Warranty is valid only when proof of purchase is registered by the installing dealer by contacting the Ford Racing Call
Center at 1(800) 367-3788


2. WARNING NOTICE:
Ford Racing Parts are not Genuine Ford Parts. All Ford Racing Parts are aftermarket parts. Therefore, they may not be used in any application that requires the use of Genuine Ford Parts. The use of Ford Racing parts and components is likely to increase
horsepower which may cause damage to the vehicle driveline and adversely affect other performance characteristics. Such damage is the sole responsibility of the consumer and is not covered by this Limited Warranty. Consumers are solely and completely
responsible for evaluating their vehicle to ensure that the vehicle, and each part of that vehicle, is appropriate for this Ford Racing part or component. It is the consumer's sole responsibility to have the performance enhancement parts properly installed on their
vehicle along with any modifications that are necessary for the proper performance of the vehicle.


3. Vehicle damage caused by a consumer's failure to modify the vehicle properly for use of one or more Ford Racing parts and components is not covered by this Limited Warranty and is the sole responsibility of the consumer. This Limited Warranty and/or the New
Vehicle Limited Warranty on your vehicle may be voided, either in whole or
in part, where the vehicle has been damaged due to a consumer's failure to modify the vehicle properly as necessary for use of Ford Racing parts and components.

4. Warranty Start Date - This limited warranty begins upon dealer installation and registration
of the Ford Racing Performance Pack(s) with Ford Racing and ends at either 3 years/36,000
miles (whichever occurs first) when installed on a new vehicle at the time of vehicle sale or 12
months/12,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for all installations occurring after the date of
vehicle sale but prior to the expiration of the 3 years/36,000 mile coverage (whichever occurs
first) under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
I really hate to disagree, but it's not Ford who covers the warranty on the FRPP flash tool. It's Ford Racing Performance Parts.
FRPP is FMC, Ford is FMC, Mercury is FMC. They are all Ford Motor Company.

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LBJay
FRPP is FMC, Ford is FMC, Mercury is FMC. They are all Ford Motor Company.

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That's trademarks not warranty. Ford is weird. FRPP is technically considered a part of Ford Motor Company but as far as warranty issues are concerned they do consider them to be different entitys.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 2kanchoo
That's trademarks not warranty. Ford is weird. FRPP is technically considered a part of Ford Motor Company but as far as warranty issues are concerned they do consider them to be different entitys.
FORD RACING LIMITED WARRANTY STATEMENT
Ford Motor Company, The American Road, Dearborn, MI 48025, provides a Limited Warranty on select Ford Racing performance parts when installed by a Ford, Lincoln or Mercury Dealer and Shelby Automotive Inc. This warranty replaces the existing manufactures warranty. This warranty is valid for the original retail purchaser of the vehicle and is transferable to subsequent owners. This Limited Warranty is valid only when proof of purchase is registered by the installing dealer by contacting the Ford Racing Call Center at 1(800) 367-3788


FMC not Ford Racing provides the warranty. Warranty claims on FRPP parts are processed though FRPP. They do the paper work.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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Although FRPP is part of FMC. Their never the less, considered as separate, and independant from one another.

As for debating who covers the warranty claims. We can all nit-pick, back and forth, until the cows come home. Even though FMC underwrites, and technically provides the warranty. The point is..Warranty claims on FRPP parts are processed though FRPP, and not FMC. For they do the paper work. Which IMHO translates..that only the FRPP parts themselves are covered, and not the actual vehicle itself. In which FRPP parts may be found directly responsible, for causing the failure of factory OEM parts, covered under the FMC factory warranty.

WARNING NOTICE:
Ford Racing Parts are not Genuine Ford Parts. All Ford Racing Parts are aftermarket parts. Therefore, they may not be used in any application that requires the use of Genuine Ford Parts. The use of Ford Racing parts and components is likely to increase
horsepower which may cause damage to the vehicle driveline and adversely affect other performance characteristics. Such damage is the sole responsibility of the consumer and is not covered by this Limited Warranty. Consumers are solely and completely
responsible for evaluating their vehicle to ensure that the vehicle, and each part of that vehicle, is appropriate for this Ford Racing part or component. It is the consumer's sole responsibility to have the performance enhancement parts properly installed on their
vehicle along with any modifications that are necessary for the proper performance of the vehicle.



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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LBJay
FORD RACING LIMITED WARRANTY STATEMENT



Ford Motor Company, The American Road, Dearborn, MI 48025, provides a Limited Warranty on select Ford Racing performance parts when installed by a Ford, Lincoln or Mercury Dealer and Shelby Automotive Inc. This warranty replaces the existing manufactures warranty. This warranty is valid for the original retail purchaser of the vehicle and is transferable to subsequent owners. This Limited Warranty is valid only when proof of purchase is registered by the installing dealer by contacting the Ford Racing Call Center at 1(800) 367-3788


FMC not Ford Racing provides the warranty. Warranty claims on FRPP parts are processed though FRPP. They do the paper work.
Yea you just proved my point... They are part of ford motor company so fmc provides the warranty of course but as you just said warranty claims on frpp parts are processed through frpp hence those are the ones you have to deal with as a seperate entity.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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The F.U.D. in this thread is ludicrous!
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2kanchoo
as a seperate entity.
Just a different profit center.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Sorry, late comer to this thread --- as I am looking into a CAI+Tune, came across this timely and great article comparing just about all CAI+Tune's for S197s. Unfortunately, no FRPP CAI +Tune, but the Steeda is there.....Looks like J&L makes the best........good read for all mustangers.......


http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...ons/index.html
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LBJay
Just a different profit center.
Doesn't matter. If you have a warranty issue with a frpp part frpp is who you have to talk to. If you try to talk to ford they will tell you don't talk to us we don't care talk to frpp. I have had to do this so I kinda know.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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But, if things really go south -- you've got a BIG target with Ford or Ford Racing and they have a big pocketbook (at least until they go broke) to ensure that you get the problem fixed. If your dealer is friendly toward you -- that goes a long way towards making sure things go even better. I have found Ford Racing to be very responsive and customer friendly, and when I have an issue that they can't resolve, my Dealer Service Manager can work wonders -- all while never having to say you're sorry about your mods.
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