Are Flowmasters really that great?
5/9/07, 10:40 AM
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1-2hp 
you most likely can't notice any performance difference between aftermarket muffler brands! I doubt you could even notice 10hp gain or loss (which I'm guessing is probably the maximum difference between mufflers brands, but is probably an extreme guess). Buy a muffler for it's sound, not for an extra 3hp over another brand. The sound may make the car seem more powerful, but I doubt you actually feel any difference. When you have 300+hp, and you add or subtract just a few hp? I highly doubt you can sense the difference other than the sound of a different muffler.
you most likely can't notice any performance difference between aftermarket muffler brands! I doubt you could even notice 10hp gain or loss (which I'm guessing is probably the maximum difference between mufflers brands, but is probably an extreme guess). Buy a muffler for it's sound, not for an extra 3hp over another brand. The sound may make the car seem more powerful, but I doubt you actually feel any difference. When you have 300+hp, and you add or subtract just a few hp? I highly doubt you can sense the difference other than the sound of a different muffler.
5/9/07, 10:55 AM
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1-2hp you most likely can't notice any performance difference between aftermarket muffler brands! I doubt you could even notice 10hp gain or loss (which I'm guessing is probably the maximum difference between mufflers brands, but is probably an extreme guess). Buy a muffler for it's sound, not for an extra 3hp over another brand. The sound may make the car seem more powerful, but I doubt you actually feel any difference. When you have 300+hp, and you add or subtract just a few hp? I highly doubt you can sense the difference other than the sound of a different muffler.
you most likely can't notice any performance difference between aftermarket muffler brands! I doubt you could even notice 10hp gain or loss (which I'm guessing is probably the maximum difference between mufflers brands, but is probably an extreme guess). Buy a muffler for it's sound, not for an extra 3hp over another brand. The sound may make the car seem more powerful, but I doubt you actually feel any difference. When you have 300+hp, and you add or subtract just a few hp? I highly doubt you can sense the difference other than the sound of a different muffler.
5/9/07, 11:42 AM
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Yeah thanks for the troll post there hstang.
Another vote for the flowmasters, they sound quite good. What I like is that when I don't want to hear them like on a long highway drive I can only hear them thrumming along but not blaring (which I've had before). It would make the drive more tiring.
The things sound insane at full throttle though, they just wail and I've had a bunch of compliments from other people and Stangers at the dragstrip. I personally like the look of the tips, but I will conceed the FRPP have some very nice tips.
Another vote for the flowmasters, they sound quite good. What I like is that when I don't want to hear them like on a long highway drive I can only hear them thrumming along but not blaring (which I've had before). It would make the drive more tiring.
The things sound insane at full throttle though, they just wail and I've had a bunch of compliments from other people and Stangers at the dragstrip. I personally like the look of the tips, but I will conceed the FRPP have some very nice tips.
5/9/07, 11:43 AM
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Yeah thanks for the troll post there hstang.
Another vote for the flowmasters, they sound quite good. What I like is that when I don't want to hear them like on a long highway drive I can only hear them thrumming along but not blaring (which I've had before). It would make the drive more tiring.
The things sound insane at full throttle though, they just wail and I've had a bunch of compliments from other people and Stangers at the dragstrip. I personally like the look of the tips, but I will conceed the FRPP have some very nice tips.
Another vote for the flowmasters, they sound quite good. What I like is that when I don't want to hear them like on a long highway drive I can only hear them thrumming along but not blaring (which I've had before). It would make the drive more tiring.
The things sound insane at full throttle though, they just wail and I've had a bunch of compliments from other people and Stangers at the dragstrip. I personally like the look of the tips, but I will conceed the FRPP have some very nice tips.
love mine also
5/9/07, 12:50 PM
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Yeah thanks for the troll post there hstang.
Another vote for the flowmasters, they sound quite good. What I like is that when I don't want to hear them like on a long highway drive I can only hear them thrumming along but not blaring (which I've had before). It would make the drive more tiring.
The things sound insane at full throttle though, they just wail and I've had a bunch of compliments from other people and Stangers at the dragstrip. I personally like the look of the tips, but I will conceed the FRPP have some very nice tips.
Another vote for the flowmasters, they sound quite good. What I like is that when I don't want to hear them like on a long highway drive I can only hear them thrumming along but not blaring (which I've had before). It would make the drive more tiring.
The things sound insane at full throttle though, they just wail and I've had a bunch of compliments from other people and Stangers at the dragstrip. I personally like the look of the tips, but I will conceed the FRPP have some very nice tips.
My Flows always turn heads and I get a ton of compliments on the sound. Absolutely roars at WOT and at cruise, nice low growl. Only drone I get is when under load (going up a steep grade).. but completely bearable. Best part is I can still hear the Shaker on long trips.
5/9/07, 01:05 PM
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1-2hp you most likely can't notice any performance difference between aftermarket muffler brands! I doubt you could even notice 10hp gain or loss (which I'm guessing is probably the maximum difference between mufflers brands, but is probably an extreme guess). Buy a muffler for it's sound, not for an extra 3hp over another brand. The sound may make the car seem more powerful, but I doubt you actually feel any difference. When you have 300+hp, and you add or subtract just a few hp? I highly doubt you can sense the difference other than the sound of a different muffler.
you most likely can't notice any performance difference between aftermarket muffler brands! I doubt you could even notice 10hp gain or loss (which I'm guessing is probably the maximum difference between mufflers brands, but is probably an extreme guess). Buy a muffler for it's sound, not for an extra 3hp over another brand. The sound may make the car seem more powerful, but I doubt you actually feel any difference. When you have 300+hp, and you add or subtract just a few hp? I highly doubt you can sense the difference other than the sound of a different muffler.Casting another vote for Flowmasters
5/9/07, 08:16 PM
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I think the quality issues have been resolved after the first run. I had an issue with mine and they replaced them no questions asked.
5/9/07, 08:23 PM
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5/10/07, 07:15 AM
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I have the Flows, with an catted X pipe & LT headers...
For me, it's a bit loud for when ya wanna be stealth and stomp on it... I get nervous the cops will hear me comming. But for pure sound and DD they are nice... you can be quiet with them for driving around town...
When ya let her rip, she screams. there is no denying that they sound good, but also no denying that some people will prefer a different sound. I maybe louder cause I'm blown and have a full exhaust set up, so I dunno what just the axelbacks on a otherwise stock GT would sound like.
Yes, I have gotten compliments on the sound, so they gotta sound good to some.
I've noticed that they are more raspy when the motor is still cold, but when the motor is warmed up it smooths the sound out. Plus I'm running an X pipe, so there is more rasp there.
Cant really tell me that they don't flow good, my exhaust flows so well that I'm down 2psi on average with different pulleys on the saleen... so the setup flows real well... not much backpressure there.
As far as HP and gains, I certinaly personally don't worry about a few HP...that's negligable at best and the car is gunna average different HP output based on climate changes...
For me, it's a bit loud for when ya wanna be stealth and stomp on it... I get nervous the cops will hear me comming. But for pure sound and DD they are nice... you can be quiet with them for driving around town...
When ya let her rip, she screams. there is no denying that they sound good, but also no denying that some people will prefer a different sound. I maybe louder cause I'm blown and have a full exhaust set up, so I dunno what just the axelbacks on a otherwise stock GT would sound like.
Yes, I have gotten compliments on the sound, so they gotta sound good to some.
I've noticed that they are more raspy when the motor is still cold, but when the motor is warmed up it smooths the sound out. Plus I'm running an X pipe, so there is more rasp there.
Cant really tell me that they don't flow good, my exhaust flows so well that I'm down 2psi on average with different pulleys on the saleen... so the setup flows real well... not much backpressure there.
As far as HP and gains, I certinaly personally don't worry about a few HP...that's negligable at best and the car is gunna average different HP output based on climate changes...
5/10/07, 07:24 AM
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The Flowmasters were the first modification I did, very shortly after gettin the car. I don't regret it as drone is not an issue and they are defintaley deeper/louder than stock.They do not sound as aggressive as the old Flowmaser Series 40s but they still sound good.
5/10/07, 10:12 AM
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+1 for Flowmasters. Stock, other than the Flows, I managed a best 1/4 of 13.678 at 103.3 so I wouldn't say they hurt performance even if they might not "flow" as well as some other brands. Plus, at about 1/2 the price of other popular brands, you can't beat 'em!
Awesome burble upon deceleration with the Flows that was inaudible with the stock GT mufflers.
If you are really worried only about how well they flow the exhaust gasses, just put on a set of SLPs.
Awesome burble upon deceleration with the Flows that was inaudible with the stock GT mufflers.
If you are really worried only about how well they flow the exhaust gasses, just put on a set of SLPs.