Flowmaster exhaust systems for the 2005
#7
That's like asking the difference between Coke and Pepsi. It's really all preference. I would say Magnaflow and Flowmaster are very similar in price, performance, quality, sound, etc. It's really just preference. Flowmasters are probably louder... but some might argue that. I personally have always liked Magnaflow. I just installed the Magnaflow axleback kit on my '05 yesterday. But, I'm not a real fan of really loud exhaust. So, I decided not to get the magnapaks. It has a real deep, throaty sound... slightly louder than the stock exhaust. Perfect for me. If you want it louder, get the paks... or wait until M1Rifle has his car and maybe posts a sound clip of the Flowmasters.
#8
From what I've gathered, Flowmaster sells a range of solutions from their classic sound from their 40 Series (agressively loud, deep) to their more mellow 50 series that is a bit louder than OEM but not nearly as loud as their 40 series. They also now offer stainless steel mufflers which are thicker walled and mellower on the inside of the car.
Flowmaster sounds more like American V8 muscle, Magnaflow seems to have more of that Euro sound (throaty but without the deep low frequency punch).
I have only heard online clips of Magnaflow, so I may be wrong about that.
Flowmaster sounds more like American V8 muscle, Magnaflow seems to have more of that Euro sound (throaty but without the deep low frequency punch).
I have only heard online clips of Magnaflow, so I may be wrong about that.
#9
M1Rifle... I also was expecting my Magnaflows to sound a little more "Euro" (although I was hoping not)... but I have to say after installing them, the on-line sound clips do it no justice. It's very deep, and has that American muscle sound to it. Maybe not quite as deep (or loud) as many would like... but I definitely have never heard a car from Europe sound like this. Of course, the sound clips I have heard are the magnapaks... so maybe those are louder but not quite as deep and rumbly.
#10
Nice!
I'm going with these because [a] chance to try them for free and [b] be the first with them for the 2005, which will help the rest of the 2005 owners who want more muffler choices and [c] they are local.
If I couldn't get [a] and [c] it probably wouldn't happen, I've got other things to spend my money on right now (spent enough on the car!)
I'm going with these because [a] chance to try them for free and [b] be the first with them for the 2005, which will help the rest of the 2005 owners who want more muffler choices and [c] they are local.
If I couldn't get [a] and [c] it probably wouldn't happen, I've got other things to spend my money on right now (spent enough on the car!)
#12
I'm not sure at this point. When I drop it off, I'll talk to the R&D guy.
My preference is to get their Stainless 409 version of the 50 series as the muffler, but I'm not sure beyond that what other options there are.
Then I'm probably going to get an XCalibrator and get a tune on it and then we'll have some good dyno numbers for everyone.
My preference is to get their Stainless 409 version of the 50 series as the muffler, but I'm not sure beyond that what other options there are.
Then I'm probably going to get an XCalibrator and get a tune on it and then we'll have some good dyno numbers for everyone.
#13
well I guess I will have to wait to hear something. I just don't want to install something that will sound like a harley davidson. I put a MAC catback system on my 1990 5.0l and it sounded pretty good. I'd hope to find something like it.
#14
Originally posted by acadian@November 12, 2004, 3:38 PM
That's like asking the difference between Coke and Pepsi. It's really all preference. I would say Magnaflow and Flowmaster are very similar in price, performance, quality, sound, etc. It's really just preference. Flowmasters are probably louder... but some might argue that. I personally have always liked Magnaflow. I just installed the Magnaflow axleback kit on my '05 yesterday. But, I'm not a real fan of really loud exhaust. So, I decided not to get the magnapaks. It has a real deep, throaty sound... slightly louder than the stock exhaust. Perfect for me. If you want it louder, get the paks... or wait until M1Rifle has his car and maybe posts a sound clip of the Flowmasters.
That's like asking the difference between Coke and Pepsi. It's really all preference. I would say Magnaflow and Flowmaster are very similar in price, performance, quality, sound, etc. It's really just preference. Flowmasters are probably louder... but some might argue that. I personally have always liked Magnaflow. I just installed the Magnaflow axleback kit on my '05 yesterday. But, I'm not a real fan of really loud exhaust. So, I decided not to get the magnapaks. It has a real deep, throaty sound... slightly louder than the stock exhaust. Perfect for me. If you want it louder, get the paks... or wait until M1Rifle has his car and maybe posts a sound clip of the Flowmasters.
I still am undecided on which exhaust system to go with....Just mufflers? Cat back? Headers, cat back & mufflers???
Thanks, Mike
#15
Yes, I installed them myself. The axleback kit came with two mufflers... each with a 4" stainless tip welded on the one side and a curved 2.5" pipe welded on the other, along with two clamps. You just unbolt the existing muffler clamps (at the 2.5" curved pipes) and then unscrew the hangers (two on each side) and then do the reverse to put the new ones on. As far as performance, I can feel a slight improvement in acceleration. And I have about 900 miles on this car (before the installation), so I have a pretty good idea of the acceleration before the install. I love the sound (very deep and slightly louder than stock) and the the 4" tips look awesome. Hopefully will be able to post pics tomorrow.
#16
Originally posted by acadian@November 14, 2004, 12:33 AM
Yes, I installed them myself. The axleback kit came with two mufflers... each with a 4" stainless tip welded on the one side and a curved 2.5" pipe welded on the other, along with two clamps. You just unbolt the existing muffler clamps (at the 2.5" curved pipes) and then unscrew the hangers (two on each side) and then do the reverse to put the new ones on. As far as performance, I can feel a slight improvement in acceleration. And I have about 900 miles on this car (before the installation), so I have a pretty good idea of the acceleration before the install. I love the sound (very deep and slightly louder than stock) and the the 4" tips look awesome. Hopefully will be able to post pics tomorrow.
Yes, I installed them myself. The axleback kit came with two mufflers... each with a 4" stainless tip welded on the one side and a curved 2.5" pipe welded on the other, along with two clamps. You just unbolt the existing muffler clamps (at the 2.5" curved pipes) and then unscrew the hangers (two on each side) and then do the reverse to put the new ones on. As far as performance, I can feel a slight improvement in acceleration. And I have about 900 miles on this car (before the installation), so I have a pretty good idea of the acceleration before the install. I love the sound (very deep and slightly louder than stock) and the the 4" tips look awesome. Hopefully will be able to post pics tomorrow.
Thanks for the reply.
Mike
#17
I dropped my car off at Flowmaster's R&D facility tonight. I have to thank my buddy Robert who drove up there with me. It's about 90 miles from my house, and about 65 miles from where we hooked up to convoy up to Santa Rosa. Robert's an old school muscle car guy (Mopar, mainly) who will do anything to further the cause of American Muscle. Hat's off to Robert (it was a 220+ mile round trip for him to help me tonight).
I spoke for a while with their R&D guy, and their just going to have to give a few different things a try. But it is likley that I'll end up with their Super 40 muffler. He anticipates that the 50's won't fit (in order to get the 50 to be a mellower cousin of the 40, they get large, probably too large for a rear muffler application in the Mustang's case).
The tips they are going to use appear to be IDENTICAL to the Magnaflow tips, without the Magnaflow name naturally. Must be the same supplier.
They will be taking pictures of the whole thing for their website, I'll get as many as possible and do a write up here when we're done with it, later this week. Should include before and after dyno runs.
I spoke for a while with their R&D guy, and their just going to have to give a few different things a try. But it is likley that I'll end up with their Super 40 muffler. He anticipates that the 50's won't fit (in order to get the 50 to be a mellower cousin of the 40, they get large, probably too large for a rear muffler application in the Mustang's case).
The tips they are going to use appear to be IDENTICAL to the Magnaflow tips, without the Magnaflow name naturally. Must be the same supplier.
They will be taking pictures of the whole thing for their website, I'll get as many as possible and do a write up here when we're done with it, later this week. Should include before and after dyno runs.
#19
The system will be what they call a "H-pipe-back" system, as the factory h-pipe is slip-fitted to the factory exhaust sytem from there back.
Cat-back is a misnomer in this car. From what I've seen, the Magnaflow is an H-pipe-back system as well.
Cat-back is a misnomer in this car. From what I've seen, the Magnaflow is an H-pipe-back system as well.