exhaust shootout in MM&FF this month
There are a lot of good articles about bolt ons for the '05 in this months MM&FF. In an exhaust comparison, they found that the Bassani and Ford Racing Mufflers had the biggest gains, with Flowmaster being close behind. Check it out, work done at Anderson Motorsport.
Sam
Sam
in the frpp catalog, its says that the ford racing exhaust is made by borla. so im sure it is going to be pretty expensive. and i dont know where the gains are coming from. i haven't seen an exhaust (mufflers) on the dyno gain power yet. just x-pipes.
I was going to purchase the FRPP muffler set for my GT but noticed the asterisk:
*Not legal for sale or use on pollution-controlled motor vehicles
I take it they are not street legal?
*Not legal for sale or use on pollution-controlled motor vehicles
I take it they are not street legal?
Originally posted by blackhat97@July 22, 2005, 8:02 AM
I was going to purchase the FRPP muffler set for my GT but noticed the asterisk:
*Not legal for sale or use on pollution-controlled motor vehicles
I take it they are not street legal?
I was going to purchase the FRPP muffler set for my GT but noticed the asterisk:
*Not legal for sale or use on pollution-controlled motor vehicles
I take it they are not street legal?
Did you notice that the rims have an asterisk too? I think Ford did that just to cover themselves in ALL states since each state seems to have different rules (plus one blanket statement is easier than researching all State's laws).
Originally posted by pumpkinfish@July 22, 2005, 9:15 AM
Did you notice that the rims have an asterisk too? I think Ford did that just to cover themselves in ALL states since each state seems to have different rules (plus one blanket statement is easier than researching all State's laws).
Did you notice that the rims have an asterisk too? I think Ford did that just to cover themselves in ALL states since each state seems to have different rules (plus one blanket statement is easier than researching all State's laws).
No I didn't notice that hahah. OK, Thanks! I feel better now.
I'll head over to Barnes and Noble on lunch and read the article on these. I most likely will be ordering them this afternoon from Kevin (05StangKC).
I know a scan is a lot of work. Can we get some numbers like FRPP +6HP? Muffler gains has been a common topic lately. I'm curious what kind of numbers they put up. The big theory is chambered-types will not make gains, just straight-thru types. If Flowmaster could beat Magnaflow, that would be interesting.
Stock
289.8 Horsepower @ 5900 RPM
313.8 Ft. Lb. Torque @ 4300 RPM
Bassani
292.8 Horsepower @ 5200 RPM
315.2 Torque @ 4100 RPM
Ford Racing
292.3 Horsepower @ 5300 RPM
314.9 Torque @ 4200 RPM
Flowmaster
292 Horsepower @ 5700 RPM
314.5 Torque @ 4200 RPM
Magnaflow
290.2 Horsepower @ 5200 RPM
311.8 Torque @ 4300 RPM
JBA
289.5 Horsepower @ 5900 RPM
313 Torque @ 4200 RPM
289.8 Horsepower @ 5900 RPM
313.8 Ft. Lb. Torque @ 4300 RPM
Bassani
292.8 Horsepower @ 5200 RPM
315.2 Torque @ 4100 RPM
Ford Racing
292.3 Horsepower @ 5300 RPM
314.9 Torque @ 4200 RPM
Flowmaster
292 Horsepower @ 5700 RPM
314.5 Torque @ 4200 RPM
Magnaflow
290.2 Horsepower @ 5200 RPM
311.8 Torque @ 4300 RPM
JBA
289.5 Horsepower @ 5900 RPM
313 Torque @ 4200 RPM
ok I walked on over to B&N on lunch and picked up the MM&FF issue. While there I also found and picked up Aug '05 issue of Automobile which does a take on Mustang, Charger and GTO head-to-head and Mike Mueller's The Complete Mustang book '64 1/2 thru '05
Ok back to MM&FF, pg 96, article is only Part 1. They compare STOCK, UN-MUFFLED, BASSANI R BX-4605-5R, FORD RACING M-5230-5GT, FLOWMASTER, MAGNAFLOW, and JBA. Each one has a chart RPM/TORQUE/POWER with RPMs ranging from 2000 to 6200 in 100 RPM increments. Obviously that is a lot of charts to type so are there any particular benchmarks you guys would be interested in seeing listed? Below are the summaries of each one:
STOCK:
Muffler weight: 16lbs each
Idle noise: 68 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 96 dBA
Column Max: 313.8 ft-lb, 289.8 hp
Column Avg: 282.5 ft-lb, 231.7 hp
UN-MUFFLED:
Muffler weight: 0 lbs
Idle noise: 73 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 99 dBA
Column Max: 311.2 ft-lb, 290.0 hp
Column Avg: 284.9 ft-lb, 227.2 hp
BASSANI R BX-4605-5R:
Muffler weight: 10 lbs each
Idle noise: 71 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 98 dBA
Column Max: 315.2 ft-lb, 292.8 hp
Column Avg: 287.5 ft-lb, 226.7 hp
FORD RACING M-5230-5GT:
Muffler weight: 7.5 lbs each
Idle noise: 71 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 96 dBA
Column Max: 314.9 ft-lb, 292.7 hp
Column Avg: 286.4 ft-lb, 223.5 hp
FLOWMASTER:
Muffler weight: 16 lbs each
Idle noise: 72 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 97 dBA
Column Max: 314.5 ft-lb, 292.0 hp
Column Avg: 287.8 ft-lb, 225.0 hp
JBA:
Muffler weight: 12 lbs each
Idle noise: 71 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 98 dBA
Column Max: 313.0 ft-lb, 289.5 hp
Column Avg: 276.7 ft-lb, 218.6 hp
QUOTE FROM ARTICLE:
"The JBA mufflers came into the test with the lowest price tag, while the Bassani and Ford Racing products made the most power. If you dig the classic 5.0 growl, as does your author, then you should check out the Flowmaster stuff. The tone is reminiscent of the 5.0 days of yesteryear."
"Tune in next issue, as we will evaluate X-pip offerings for the '05 Mustang GT."
Hope this info was usefull for you guys.
Mike
EDIT: looks like Zach wrote up the highlights of the RPM chart while I was writing this. Thanks Zach!
Ok back to MM&FF, pg 96, article is only Part 1. They compare STOCK, UN-MUFFLED, BASSANI R BX-4605-5R, FORD RACING M-5230-5GT, FLOWMASTER, MAGNAFLOW, and JBA. Each one has a chart RPM/TORQUE/POWER with RPMs ranging from 2000 to 6200 in 100 RPM increments. Obviously that is a lot of charts to type so are there any particular benchmarks you guys would be interested in seeing listed? Below are the summaries of each one:
STOCK:
Muffler weight: 16lbs each
Idle noise: 68 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 96 dBA
Column Max: 313.8 ft-lb, 289.8 hp
Column Avg: 282.5 ft-lb, 231.7 hp
UN-MUFFLED:
Muffler weight: 0 lbs
Idle noise: 73 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 99 dBA
Column Max: 311.2 ft-lb, 290.0 hp
Column Avg: 284.9 ft-lb, 227.2 hp
BASSANI R BX-4605-5R:
Muffler weight: 10 lbs each
Idle noise: 71 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 98 dBA
Column Max: 315.2 ft-lb, 292.8 hp
Column Avg: 287.5 ft-lb, 226.7 hp
FORD RACING M-5230-5GT:
Muffler weight: 7.5 lbs each
Idle noise: 71 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 96 dBA
Column Max: 314.9 ft-lb, 292.7 hp
Column Avg: 286.4 ft-lb, 223.5 hp
FLOWMASTER:
Muffler weight: 16 lbs each
Idle noise: 72 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 97 dBA
Column Max: 314.5 ft-lb, 292.0 hp
Column Avg: 287.8 ft-lb, 225.0 hp
JBA:
Muffler weight: 12 lbs each
Idle noise: 71 dBA
Cruise noise @ 2000 rpm: 98 dBA
Column Max: 313.0 ft-lb, 289.5 hp
Column Avg: 276.7 ft-lb, 218.6 hp
QUOTE FROM ARTICLE:
"The JBA mufflers came into the test with the lowest price tag, while the Bassani and Ford Racing products made the most power. If you dig the classic 5.0 growl, as does your author, then you should check out the Flowmaster stuff. The tone is reminiscent of the 5.0 days of yesteryear."
"Tune in next issue, as we will evaluate X-pip offerings for the '05 Mustang GT."
Hope this info was usefull for you guys.
Mike
EDIT: looks like Zach wrote up the highlights of the RPM chart while I was writing this. Thanks Zach!
It is interesting that Borla is not among the tested mufflers or as the article calls them "aft-axle exhausts". As the article goes on to state, "We can't use the generic term "cat-back" anymore (which is what everyone calls them) because a certain company copywrighted the term and throws a fit if you refer to such systems that way unless they come from that specific company."
Sounds like they ran into a flap with Borla and decided to snub them of free press.
Sounds like they ran into a flap with Borla and decided to snub them of free press.



