I'm not planning on getting my mustang for at least 1 to 2 more years. But I do want to hear ideas on what might be a good engine swap for the V6 or V8.

Crate engines being plentiful, I'd rather put my money toward a high horsepower, naturally aspirated crate engine and tranny then dishing out 3-6k on a supercharger.

I've seen all these new 9-10 second 05 stangs coming around the corner, but the majority seem to be going with a proven crate setup, rather than the original 3 valve (or V6, to save money).

Does anyone have information on whether Ford will be coming up with crate engines specific to the S197 architecture in the near future (minus the cammer). If not Ford, any other manufacturer that might be coming out with bolt conversion kits in the near future?

From what I've seen so far, its all custom work right now.

Any knowledge from this pool of fine you lads and lassies would be appreciated!

 

Go to your local ford dealer and ask them about their crate engines.

 

I typically find that people here are better informed than the sales people at Ford dealerships.

 

With the right tools, you can fit just about any engine in any car. It's just a matter of cost.

As for engines that fit without a lot of modifications, I think I've seen pics of 4 valve cobra motors in 05s... I can't remember where though.

 

This isn't going to help you much but, I was considering the same thing for a while.But this little 3v is shaping up to be a great motor...I haven't done much yet and I'm putting out 315 RWHP and 332 RWTQ sae corrected. Next I'm getting the head's ported and polished and a race cam. That should put me in the 375 RWHP 390 RWTQ range, not to bad...Just a thought.

 

I don't doubt its a great motor. But if I do get my Mustang, its most likely going to be the V6 due to costs. Its at that point that I'd love to drop in a crate motor. I think as far as bang for the buck, that is the best way to go.

My only gripe with the 3v is its complexity.

 

Right on! Yah she is a complex animal for sure...

 

Looks like you closing in on running 12s soon! Excellent!
You saving for a blower, or possibly thinking of the happy gas as a potential mod for the future?

 

Thank's, I'm going to see how the head's and cam's do...but it's never enough I'm checking out Supercharger's for the future...

 

You have my envy! :worship:

I'd love to drop a 427 into a Mustang myself, but my dreams will have to wait!

 

It will be worth it! Here is a thought to make one drool..."428 Cobra Jet"...

 

MM&FF ran an article on one last month

 

In the September 2005 issue of MM&FF, page 204, they show Steve Angell's 2005 Mustang. In it he put in a four valve, supercharged Cobra motor. It mentioned he had to "massage the shock towers and build custom motor mounts, headers and a transmission mount." He also had to add a ' 03-style gas pedal and throttle cable due to the '05's drive-by-wire setup.

I tried to find a link to the article, but no luck......

 

The man was innovative at tweaking it in the engine compartment. I'm thinking it'll be much easier once the new Shelby engine comes out.. maybe.. (it'll be interesting to see what they price it at).

 

Just drop a F150 Engine in there. They're 5.4L, 3V, and Cast Iron so the block is good and strong, then put some forged internals in and a Whipple or Saleen SC = instant GT500 Power and you wont have to change all the computer electronic stuff.

 

Why not just by a gt? You say because of money, but I hate to tell you that if you put a crate motor in it your gonna have as much or more in the car than if you just buy a gt and mod it. It makes no sense unless your planning on doing a drag car to do a crate motor. Even then I think I would trust Steve Petty or someone to put my motor together with better parts than a ford crate motor.

 

GT's cost $5-10k more then a the V-6 (depending on the dealer).
Plus once you add in some 'Mods' you can tack on another $5-10k depending on what you want to do.

Like I said, I'm waiting a few years. If depreciation goes by the same rule of thumb as with previous Mustangs (within the last decade), the V-6 will depreciate faster than the V-8, making it that much less expensive.

As far as crate motors go, I didn't specify that it was going to be a Ford Crate Motor, that's just one option. Personally I'm waiting for the crate industry to catch up with the 05, and that'll talk a few years. I was just wondering if anyones heard anything yet.

I'll still stick with the V-6 idea. Me and my buds have done at least 3 engine swaps in the past, so its not something that we as a team cannot overcome when the time arrives.

Besides, I want 500+ HP 'naturally aspirated'. The GT can't give me that.

 

How hard would it be to swap a 3v into a fox body?

 

Hmmm, now THAT is an interesting idea! No pesky throttle by wire for one thing, but then again, you'd have to figure out how to adapt an existing throttle body and cable to the 3V intake.

 

computer is your main issue, the 05 computer will not work with older motors you'll need to replace it with the appropriate computer