Base run. Max power 298.36 Max Torque 308.55

Mods:

JLT cold air
Roush underdrive pullyes
IMRC delete plates
Magnaflow highflow x pipe
PYPES axle back
3.90 gears
Roush short throw shifter
Dougs @ BamaChips 93 RACE tune


After C&L intake:

1st run. Max Power 305.77 Max Torque 304.73
2nd run. Max Power 305.73 Max Torque 306.44

Mods:

C&L Intake (Long Runner) Has not been sent back for the short runner change.
JLT cold air
Roush underdrive pullyes
Magnaflow highflow x pipe
PYPES axle back
3.90 gears
Roush short throw shifter
Dougs @ BamaChips 93 RACE tune

Funny thing is from 2000 to about 3300 rpms the car made more torque than the stock intake with delete plates did.

On the stock intake and delete plates it started to get a little choppy after about 5000 rpms up and the C&L was smoother and started picking up power at 5000. At 5700 rpms the C&L made 10 more hp than the stock intake with delete plates did.

Sorry I'm not good at doing a write up.

Just thought some people might want to know what the differece was. I dynoed my car last night. So it was Dynoed the same night for the before and after pulls.

 

Dyno001 shows the pulls before and after the intake.

Dyno002 shows the full pulls.

Dyno003 shows the the horsepower differences between the runs at 5,700 rpms.

Sorry I had to take pictures with my phone and then post them on here. So the pics might not be good. SORRY!

The last pic is one I took this morning of the C&L on the my car.

 

I take it thats the 'gen 2' intake?

Looking forward to track results.

Apprec. the post

 

Thanks for posting your results. I've been considering this intake for my Vortech supercharged 07 GT. I suspect that forced induction will see bigger gains than N/A, and my car makes its best power up high in the rpm's where the C&L intake's better flow should really shine with a centrifugal blower.

 

I would agree with you Brian. At least for you FI guys. The numbers just aren't there for us N/A guys though. Cost verses gains. I really hoped this intake was going to be the silver bullet for us N/A fellas. But not to be.

 

SAE correction?

 

the only way ANY intake would be good for an NA car, is if the bottom end, valvetrain, and cams built to safely spin to, and above, 7500ish.


Can anyone say 302 10.5:1 Eagle stroker w/ custom cam...

I think it worth a try!!

 

That's usually my question.
Thanks for helping out.

 

showed a gain, as long as it was the same both times... dosent really matter.

 

What really matters is what it can really do on the track.
The point of SAE is a level comparison between various cars.

 

Im well aware of that... not comparing cars... intake before and after, thus SAE insignificant

Besides, compare cars at the track

 

It was on a Dynojet so I don't know if it has a SAE correction?

I was dynoed the same night at the same time. It took about 30 mins to put the C&L on. I will take it to the track when I can and post up what my times are with the intake.

It wasn't a huge gain in power but it was a pick up in horse power. If you want to stay N/A it is worth the money any pick up N/A is good. If you are not wanting every little bit of power N/A then it wouldn't be a good choice. They don't make the enconmy delete plates anymore so you need to find a set of them. Doug at BamaChips has some. When they are sold out there are no more. Then all there is is the steeda delete plates and they cost around 300.00 dollars. So you can pay 300 for 5 hp or 800 for 15 hp and anything else you do will only make the C&L intake make more power.

The C&L feels like it pulls harder from 5000 to redline. I love the added upper end power.

I race my wife tonight and she was driveing my moms 03 supercharged Saleen. I raced her from a roll. We raced from about 80 mph to 120 and I pulled her. It wasn't bad but I was about a half a fender to a full fender ahead of her. My moms Saleen is the 375 hp supercharged Saleen (auto) and I pulled her N/A. So I think the intake is worth the money. Well to me it was anyhow.

 

I took the car to the track and on ET Streets the car ran a 8.19 & 84 mph. I launched at 4500 and it was chirping the tires for about 40 ft out and it cut a 1.73 60 ft. So if I can get the car to hook better and get the 60's in the 1.6 range I think it's in the 7's N/A.

 

Yes it does but thanks for the input Chad.

 

Most overlooked part of the thread so far.

 

For once we agree on something

If I was spending that much on a manifold, I would buy a JPC. Down to $1200 from right around $2500 is good odds to me.

 

How does it matter? It was done on my behave. C&L had nothing to do with it. It was Dynoed on the same car, same night, same dyno, same tune, within about 30 mins of each other.

Why do you say that? You have one of them on your car don't you.

Why would you spend 1200-2500 for a intake when you can get a C&L for 749-799 and it dynoed rwhp over delete plates on a stock N/A engine. Everything you do after the C&L will only net more power over the stock intake.

I'm getting the production unit in today. I'm going to put it on the car tonight and when I get more money I'm going to dyno it and see if it nets anymore power.

 

Because you can see where their research is, when it comes to the JPC its about even distribution of air to all cylinders. Not necessarily power. Different strokes for different folks, I'm at the RPM barrier and have all the supporting mods, including aftermarket fuel rails.

IMO your arguing point is a bit out of touch. Its easy to make power on a stock motor as there is a lot of untapped potential. Its hard to make power on a full bolt on car, because your chasing efficiency which will give you power.

 

Ok so have you ever seen a C&L intake? The C&L has even distribution all of the runners are the same length and each one flows within 2% of each other. The JPC is 1795.00 + 299.00 foor the fuel rails + 300.00 for Delete plates (you have to have to run there intake) So thats 2394.00 for no more hp gain than the C&L. So why would you pay 2400 for a intake when you can buy a C&L for 799.00 and make the same power on N/A engines and make the same if not more hp on FI cars? Get the intake you want. I personally don't have 2400.00 to blow on a intake. Why not put some with it and buy a supercharger. I have seen used Saleen blowers for 2500.00 so why would you not buy a supercharger for the same money. I know it makes more power the the JPC intake.

 

I think your a little misleading in your prices there, get on there website as they are selling for $1200, everything else I already have myself and can trim the delete plates on our mill to clear the hood. Same reason I plan on swapping to a return fuel system. Is it necessary at my level? No. Is it beneficial in smoothing out tuning spikes? Hell yes. Take it for what its worth. Yes I have seen a C&L in person, I'm just not as impressed. Power is a bad argument for me as I havent seen testing done on a similar set up. Go with what you like I know the end result for my build and that's part of it. Good luck!