COMPARED: MGW vs STEEDA SHIFTERS
COMPARED: MGW vs STEEDA SHIFTERS
I've had the Steeda Triax shifter for over a year now and even updated it with the stock OEM bushings rather than the brass bushings that came with it on the bottom of the shifter. Steeda no longer sells the shifter with brass bushings do to noise. I just removed the Triax and replaced it with a new MGW LTD model. Keep in mind the PRO 50 shifter is pretty much the same as the Triax.
The Triax is a decent shifter after the OEM bushings were installed which really did quiet the thing down. It does rattle a bit at certain rpm's which is a PITA at times. There have been times that I've missed third gear do to the shifter handle hitting what feels like a brick wall (no man's land) and I've had the thing go into 1st gear when hunting for third, that's only happened a couple of times. Overall it's a decent shifter that's fairly quiet and performs very well as long as you know how to hunt the gear selection down. The height adjustment for the shifter handle is either 1 or the other position........no in between. I like it in between. The higher the engine revs, the harder it is to engage a gear.
After installing the MGW LTD model I immediately hit the rural streets where I live and flogged the thing. It feels very solid. Very little slop whether in or out of gear. The adustable throw is incredible. My adjuster is about 8 turns out which is a fairly short, but not extremely short throw. Missing third gear takes a real jackazz for sure do to the heavy springs in the design. Absolutely no noise over the stock shifter in my opinion. I was able to get pretty darn decent speed shifts with this thing which is something I just couldn't do with the Triax at high rpm's. Shifting from 1st to 2nd requires you to remember the heavy springs, but not a problem. I just adjusted the way I shift a bit and got used to it real quick. Getting it in reverse is easy, no problems there.
Overall, it is my opinion that the MGW LTD shifter is the best replacement out there for a host of reasons that others have already gone over. I just wanted to do an honest comparison between the two. I highly recommend it. Very solid. You can feel it immediately.
The Triax is a decent shifter after the OEM bushings were installed which really did quiet the thing down. It does rattle a bit at certain rpm's which is a PITA at times. There have been times that I've missed third gear do to the shifter handle hitting what feels like a brick wall (no man's land) and I've had the thing go into 1st gear when hunting for third, that's only happened a couple of times. Overall it's a decent shifter that's fairly quiet and performs very well as long as you know how to hunt the gear selection down. The height adjustment for the shifter handle is either 1 or the other position........no in between. I like it in between. The higher the engine revs, the harder it is to engage a gear.
After installing the MGW LTD model I immediately hit the rural streets where I live and flogged the thing. It feels very solid. Very little slop whether in or out of gear. The adustable throw is incredible. My adjuster is about 8 turns out which is a fairly short, but not extremely short throw. Missing third gear takes a real jackazz for sure do to the heavy springs in the design. Absolutely no noise over the stock shifter in my opinion. I was able to get pretty darn decent speed shifts with this thing which is something I just couldn't do with the Triax at high rpm's. Shifting from 1st to 2nd requires you to remember the heavy springs, but not a problem. I just adjusted the way I shift a bit and got used to it real quick. Getting it in reverse is easy, no problems there.
Overall, it is my opinion that the MGW LTD shifter is the best replacement out there for a host of reasons that others have already gone over. I just wanted to do an honest comparison between the two. I highly recommend it. Very solid. You can feel it immediately.
Thanks for the comparison! I'm currently milling over shifters and this was nice to read. I had a Triax on my old 02 GT and loved it so I was fairly inclined to stick with it, but I think I'll reconsider the MGW now.
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
You know, the Steeda is not bad at all. It's just now that I've had both, I prefer the MGW. It's as good as it gets in remote shifters. I mean, the thing feels like a top loader for sure. The sucker feels super tight and I love the way it hunts out 3rd gear like none other. We put the Steeda on my son's '05 and drove both cars several times. I'm not puting down the Steeda at all. I just think the MGW is on another level.
Using the same logic, I said I was going to just wait until MGW came out with the one for the S197.
In case you're wondering why I haven't bought the new MGW shifter yet: I had purchased the Saleen adapter (figured for $30 I'd try it), and now can't decide if it's worth the $300 to get the MGW shifter or just keep what I have. Currently, I'm just going to keep the Saleen adapter for awhile, and not spend the $300.
well if you havent heard george says he has found some different springs that he is sending to people I believe. So you can keep with the stiffer springs or put in the others for a different feel. So it sounds like this shifter is **** amazing, good luck to those that have it.
Mine came with an extra set of springs. I didn't open that bag at all. I just threw them in a parts drawer. I figured they were spares for when the others wear out. I'll have to get it out and read the paper that came with them.
we should get Kevin to check all the part numbers of the stock shifters to see if they changed anything in 07 or Job2 07 because the one in this car leaves me not wanting any changes whatsoever, its very short and snickety
None of these shifters have a gate that affects the precision of the shift.
None of these shifters have anything to do with the operation of the blocker ring or the slider, and therefore the ease or difficulty of engaging a gear, no matter the what speed or RPM.
All of that is controlled inside the transmission by the single the rod hanging out the back of the transmission that the shifter only rotates and pushes in or pulls out.
If you don't rotate the shifter enough between the gates inside the transmission case, you miss the gate.
None of these shifters have anything to do with the operation of the blocker ring or the slider, and therefore the ease or difficulty of engaging a gear, no matter the what speed or RPM.
All of that is controlled inside the transmission by the single the rod hanging out the back of the transmission that the shifter only rotates and pushes in or pulls out.
If you don't rotate the shifter enough between the gates inside the transmission case, you miss the gate.
I didn't realize that. I went with the Steeda and liked it, so I didn't really have a reason to try a different one. Had I known they were that much better, I would have definately tried it.
I didn't intend to switch from steeda to MGW, but I got fed up with steeda. Here's my thread about why I switched.
BTW, all that was needed to fix the Steeda unit was some brake cleaner to get rid of excess grease that accumulated on the springs. So, steeda wanted me to pay for a shipping 2-ways and be without a shifter for who-knows how long, just to clean the springs, which took all of 5 minutes. That's
. Granted, I did have the original shifter that I could have put back in the car, but I honestly didn't want to have to keep going back and forth, and that isn't the point anyway. What if I didn't have the original shifter...steeda didn't care about the fact that my car would have been out of commission for at least a week while they fixed something that was USER-repairable.
Now, the reasoning of why MGW's was better than Steedas:
Unlike other shifters, it will NOT gall, and the feel is nice and smooth without requiring too much force. It is honestly perfect if you are just looking for a short throw shifter that won't get annoying while driving. The feel is much better than stock without requiring muscular forearms to shift. Sure, the Steeda one is easy to get used to, but the MGW provides a better feel and less force is required.
Originally Posted by mikes rx
I would buy from MGW over Steeda anyday for a shifter. Steeda's "Lifetime Warranty" is bogus. My tri-ax on my 2000 wouldn't spring back to normal; Steeda said that this was just "wear", and they wanted to have me pay shipping both ways to get it fixed I asked Steeda if I could open the shifter base to try fixing it myself/cleaning it, and they said it would void their "warranty".
So, fed up with Steeda, I called George at MGW, and he informed me that the springs aren't covered by him either. But, he also informed me about HOW EASY it was to fix, and that if it was his shifter he would just send out the springs for the 50 cents that it costs and have me fix it itself.
Thanks to George's help, I was able to fix the Tri-ax myself. But, I also purchased the MGW, as both a thanks and because George's selling points made his product seem superior to Steeda's. Well, it was, and I was thrilled with his shifter. So, I sold the tri-ax as soon as I got the MGW. Then, I sold the MGW shifter (and got almost what I paid for it) when I got rid of the car. You know a product is good when you can't hardly find anyone selling it on ebay. Look at how many used Tri-ax's there are vs. used MGW shifters
So, fed up with Steeda, I called George at MGW, and he informed me that the springs aren't covered by him either. But, he also informed me about HOW EASY it was to fix, and that if it was his shifter he would just send out the springs for the 50 cents that it costs and have me fix it itself.
Thanks to George's help, I was able to fix the Tri-ax myself. But, I also purchased the MGW, as both a thanks and because George's selling points made his product seem superior to Steeda's. Well, it was, and I was thrilled with his shifter. So, I sold the tri-ax as soon as I got the MGW. Then, I sold the MGW shifter (and got almost what I paid for it) when I got rid of the car. You know a product is good when you can't hardly find anyone selling it on ebay. Look at how many used Tri-ax's there are vs. used MGW shifters
. Granted, I did have the original shifter that I could have put back in the car, but I honestly didn't want to have to keep going back and forth, and that isn't the point anyway. What if I didn't have the original shifter...steeda didn't care about the fact that my car would have been out of commission for at least a week while they fixed something that was USER-repairable.Now, the reasoning of why MGW's was better than Steedas:
Unlike other shifters, it will NOT gall, and the feel is nice and smooth without requiring too much force. It is honestly perfect if you are just looking for a short throw shifter that won't get annoying while driving. The feel is much better than stock without requiring muscular forearms to shift. Sure, the Steeda one is easy to get used to, but the MGW provides a better feel and less force is required.
None of these shifters have a gate that affects the precision of the shift.
None of these shifters have anything to do with the operation of the blocker ring or the slider, and therefore the ease or difficulty of engaging a gear, no matter the what speed or RPM.
All of that is controlled inside the transmission by the single the rod hanging out the back of the transmission that the shifter only rotates and pushes in or pulls out.
If you don't rotate the shifter enough between the gates inside the transmission case, you miss the gate.
None of these shifters have anything to do with the operation of the blocker ring or the slider, and therefore the ease or difficulty of engaging a gear, no matter the what speed or RPM.
All of that is controlled inside the transmission by the single the rod hanging out the back of the transmission that the shifter only rotates and pushes in or pulls out.
If you don't rotate the shifter enough between the gates inside the transmission case, you miss the gate.
All I can say is the proof is in the shift ability at high R's. The transmission gear select spool only rotates a slight distance between gate choices which can be greatly affected by flex in a shifter design. The MGW shifter allowing the remote mounting beam to rotate a bit cures this situation.
well just look at the mgw and whats included, then look at the rest, that and the comments found on here should tell you. Sounds like MGW is the only choice for new buyers. good luck with whatever you choose.
All I can say s that I've been drooling over the looks of the hurst shifter for two years while I anxiously awaited for George to finish up the MGW. Boy am I glad I waited. The quality and workmanship in this device is superior and the completeness of the kit is unique amongst it's rivals. Each piece is individually wrapped and labeled. Every nut and washer you will need is included and even the allen wrenches you will need are included in the kit. Every piece that makes metal to metal contact is either covered in rubber or dynamat material. They give you two sheets to place in the well before you install the shifter to remove any noice and vibration. This shifter is the best engineered shifter out there. Well worth the price and the wait.
Two things you will need to know before you order. The shifter is available with two differnt handles. one has a 12mm x1.5 thread which will accept the stock shift ****. There is an optinonal shifter handle that can be used with hurst shift ***** and others. Make sure you order the one you need. Also, the shift stop kit is un-necesary. Our transmission has the stops built into it. The instructions that come with the shifter warn that inpropper callibration of the shift stop may result in damage to the transmission, the shifter or both which will not be covered by the warranty.
Two things you will need to know before you order. The shifter is available with two differnt handles. one has a 12mm x1.5 thread which will accept the stock shift ****. There is an optinonal shifter handle that can be used with hurst shift ***** and others. Make sure you order the one you need. Also, the shift stop kit is un-necesary. Our transmission has the stops built into it. The instructions that come with the shifter warn that inpropper callibration of the shift stop may result in damage to the transmission, the shifter or both which will not be covered by the warranty.
It is the best one out there for sure. I put the shift stops in, but they are adjusted about 1/16'' from the shifter rod.
Carputz, don't buy the hurst.....it's not nearly as well built as the MGW.
Carputz, don't buy the hurst.....it's not nearly as well built as the MGW.
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