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Old 11/9/05, 08:22 PM
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Talked with Chuck at CHE today...and together with Mike at Powerhouse411...have developed their version of LCA relocation brackets. I have their K-member brace with "torque limiters" right now. They have great products and are both super guys to deal with. They will be offered at 98.00 bucks i believe...and thats powdercoated! These are a direct BOLT IN! No welding needed! Just want to pass along news....these should be available for shipping this Friday. I will be one of the first to try them out,and will post here on my experience. Weather is getting bad here...so i hope to get them and try them out before snow starts flying.
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I just ordered a set too. I like the idea of these because they are totally reversible unlike the BMR weld in brackets. Metco offers a set of bolt in brackets also, but they state that they only work with their control arms. I'm not sure how or why that would be, but the CHE ones look pretty hard to beat anyway. Of course they had to release them right after my panhard bar brace order got shipped though!
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Hate to break it to ya but bolt in brackets are very likely to break from the stress of drag racing. For a bracket that holds the suspended rear end from side to side to not be welded in is a bad idea. Youre going into the wall...

They look good at least.

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Originally posted by Cleveland@November 10, 2005, 1:54 AM
Hate to break it to ya but bolt in brackets are very likely to break from the stress of drag racing. For a bracket that holds the suspended rear end from side to side to not be welded in is a bad idea. Youre going into the wall...

They look good at least.

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I have to say that those same exact bolt in brackets have gone 10.65@132 w 1.51 60ft with almost 590 ftlbs, 5800rpm 7 psi launches in a 3500# car. They were bolted in the car all this season and countless launches and absolutely ZERO issues.

If perferred, they can be welded in place as well.

They will also accept the stock trailing arm, either of the replacement lowers from CHE, or any stock replacement lower and they can easily be changed back to the stock position with little effort.
Old 11/10/05, 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Cleveland@November 10, 2005, 12:54 AM
Hate to break it to ya but bolt in brackets are very likely to break from the stress of drag racing. For a bracket that holds the suspended rear end from side to side to not be welded in is a bad idea. Youre going into the wall...
The trac-bar holds the axle from side to side. It absorbs the lateral forces. The upper and lower control arm see very minimal lateral forces, and the force is less at the axle side.

Under load, does the pinion want to deflect upwards, or downwards. I was thinking up, but wasn't sure. If this is the case, the bolt on the upper portion is seeing virtually no load which if mainly forced on the new bracket mounting face. In this case, I don't really see a great need for welding.
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The pinion wants to rotate up.
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Nice info, Mike. Not sure I want to get into that part of the car just yet... but I will write your site down in my list of possible mods. And those are impressive numbers.
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Originally posted by Mike@PowerHouse@November 10, 2005, 12:12 PM
I have to say that those same exact bolt in brackets have gone 10.65@132 w 1.51 60ft with almost 590 ftlbs, 5800rpm 7 psi launches in a 3500# car. They were bolted in the car all this season and countless launches and absolutely ZERO issues.

If perferred, they can be welded in place as well.

They will also accept the stock trailing arm, either of the replacement lowers from CHE, or any stock replacement lower and they can easily be changed back to the stock position with little effort.
Gotta love when the true numbers are there to prove everything. Mike, I was waiting for this to make it to production, are they ready to ship?
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Originally posted by dhof303@November 10, 2005, 5:42 PM
Gotta love when the true numbers are there to prove everything. Mike, I was waiting for this to make it to production, are they ready to ship?

Yes, Give me a call. I do not want to upset the moderators.

814 774 4966
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Originally posted by Fman67@November 9, 2005, 11:25 PM
Talked with Chuck at CHE today...and together with Mike at Powerhouse411...have developed their version of LCA relocation brackets. I have their K-member brace with "torque limiters" right now. They have great products and are both super guys to deal with. They will be offered at 98.00 bucks i believe...and thats powdercoated! These are a direct BOLT IN! No welding needed! Just want to pass along news....these should be available for shipping this Friday. I will be one of the first to try them out,and will post here on my experience. Weather is getting bad here...so i hope to get them and try them out before snow starts flying.
UPDATE: INSTALLED TONIGHT! FIT PERFECT! Will let you all know how they work when it stops raining here!
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I'm really interested in this, not sure if I trust something this important to a couple of bolts though. I'd like to hear feedback from people that already have these. I was previously considering the BMRs, but I'm not a welder, so I'd have to find someone to do that for me.

If these are capable of what we all throw at them I'd definitely install them in my ride.
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whats the website?
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Originally posted by hippiehead025@November 16, 2005, 9:07 AM
whats the website?
Here you go. I dont think they are on the website yet however.

http://www.powerhouse411.com/
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Will the BMR Tubular (fixed-length) LCA's that I bought a few weeks ago work with these brackets?
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Originally posted by hippiehead025@November 16, 2005, 9:07 AM
whats the website?
Here is CHE's:

http://www.cheperformance.com/index.html
Old 11/16/05, 09:29 PM
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Yes...i have same ones! They fit as well as stock or any other.
Originally posted by SoFL05GT@November 16, 2005, 11:51 AM
Will the BMR Tubular (fixed-length) LCA's that I bought a few weeks ago work with these brackets?
Old 11/16/05, 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Bags2005@November 16, 2005, 1:19 AM
I'm really interested in this, not sure if I trust something this important to a couple of bolts though. I'd like to hear feedback from people that already have these. I was previously considering the BMRs, but I'm not a welder, so I'd have to find someone to do that for me.

If these are capable of what we all throw at them I'd definitely install them in my ride.
I installed them,they fit perfect,,,and if you look at them closely,you will see that there is no way they are gonna move anywhere. Stock mounting points are not any stronger. I will let everyone know how they worked for me this weekend....might get a small break in weather,so i'll give 'em a good workout!
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right on man, let us know. I'm installing a bunch of parts next weekend, and if these are worthwhile I'd like to do them at the same time.
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so what exactly do these brackets do for me?
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Thanks Fman67! I'm going to call Mike later today. :-)



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