C&L Intake System Initial Results
12/17/04, 10:39 AM
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Read about it here. Sounds pretty good!! B)
12/17/04, 10:54 AM
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I wonder if that included a reflash. Like others have been saying, no mods are gainful unless a flash is included. At least the gain won't last long anyway.
12/17/04, 11:10 AM
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I have been in direct contact with Lee Bender of C&L Performance so I could give you guys the best info possible regarding this new power mod. Lee is a great guy and got back with me this morning on their results. Here is what will be on their site.
Here are some great dyno charts. The SAE and Uncorrected Graphs. Look at the gains of the uncorrected graphs which are what the car was acctually putting down at that particular time.
C&L is pleased to announce ANOTHER FIRST for Mustang enthusiasts. Owners of the cool new 2005 GT Mustang will love the complete package that we have developed for these vehicles. So much more than a "cold air" kit, this is a complete system that truly addresses every aspect of improving the air intake on the all-new Mustang. As a complete throttle-body forward package, the entire factory air intake assembly is replaced with all new components. While others will try to sell a "cold air" package that consists of a cone filter and an exhaust pipe tube based mass airflow housing, only our package comes with an all-new (patent pending) cast inlet pipe and a CNC machined aluminum mass airflow housing. This gives us the ability to properly calibrate the mass air signal to ensure that no computer re-tune is necessary. The factory commanded air/fuel ratio on these vehicles is 12.0:1, with the ACTUAL air/fuel ratio coming in at around 11.0:1. By using a CNC machined MAF housing, we are able to control the air velocity across the original factory air sensor to deliver the 12:1 air/fuel ratio that the computer expects. This means that the computer does not have to make any "adjustments" to reach it's target air/fuel ratio, and yet it gives you the room to do other modifications (such as exhaust upgrades which may lean out your air/fuel ratio) without the need to do any special tuning. MAF housings that are made out of tubing (3.5" exhaust pipe) and use a welded-on sensor flange can not be machined or adjusted to properly control the velocity of the air as it travels across the MAF sensor. This means that custom tuning will most likely be required when using such a unit, in order to keep from having issues with the factory computer programming. When developing this system, we found that the computer is extrmemely sensitive to MAF design changes, which means that a properly tuned MAF housing is critical on these vehicles in order to keep the computer happy. As you will see in the enclosed dyno charts, our 2005 test vehicle was VERY happy to receive this new upgrade.
With an air/fuel ratio no leaner than 12.2:1, our new system gave an increase of 18 rear wheel HP and 17 ft/lbs of torque. More impressive than these "peak" gains are the average gains that are realized throughout the entire "shifting" RPM range (4750 RPM to redline). At no point throughout this RPM range does the gain appear to be below 15 rear wheel HP. Peak improvements are nice, but it is the AVERAGE power gains that really help your performance both down the track and in the real world.
Not shown in these pictures is the filter shield assembly that will be provided with the system. This cover will attach to the fender using the original factory airbox bolt hole, and will completely separate the air filter from the engine compartment heat. Although pricing has not yet been finalized, the cost for the entire system should not exceed $350 when it becomes available in early January 2005. We are sure that this package will soon become one of the most popular upgrades for the 2005 Mustang.
With an air/fuel ratio no leaner than 12.2:1, our new system gave an increase of 18 rear wheel HP and 17 ft/lbs of torque. More impressive than these "peak" gains are the average gains that are realized throughout the entire "shifting" RPM range (4750 RPM to redline). At no point throughout this RPM range does the gain appear to be below 15 rear wheel HP. Peak improvements are nice, but it is the AVERAGE power gains that really help your performance both down the track and in the real world.
Not shown in these pictures is the filter shield assembly that will be provided with the system. This cover will attach to the fender using the original factory airbox bolt hole, and will completely separate the air filter from the engine compartment heat. Although pricing has not yet been finalized, the cost for the entire system should not exceed $350 when it becomes available in early January 2005. We are sure that this package will soon become one of the most popular upgrades for the 2005 Mustang.
12/17/04, 12:24 PM
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There is another thread on this here: http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=11706
and it seems to be indicating that no reflash is necessary (at least thats what i am getting from the part where it says that no tuning is necessary for their kit as opposed to others).
and it seems to be indicating that no reflash is necessary (at least thats what i am getting from the part where it says that no tuning is necessary for their kit as opposed to others).
12/17/04, 01:13 PM
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that looks great. i'm really impressed by the custom MAF. that was one thing that concerened me about the other requiring an adjustment to be made after installing the intake.
awesome find scott.
very impressive.
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awesome find scott.
very impressive.
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