Best ShortBlock for Supercharger & Nitrous
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Best ShortBlock for Supercharger & Nitrous
Teksid or Romeo block - Where is the best place to buy one built or buy block & components for capable 700-800HP engine. Also taking into account budget considerations. Looking at either Kenne Bell or Whipple Supercharger with 15-20 lbs of boost. Also anyone out there done this mod? Do all the factory brackets / accessories bolt up fine? Or is there some custom fabs to be made?
Also recommended modular engine specialist to put this together?
In Florida. Boss330 or Blow By Racing?
Thinking ahead to Uncle Sam to finance this project - since am due a nice tax refund !!
Also recommended modular engine specialist to put this together?
In Florida. Boss330 or Blow By Racing?
Thinking ahead to Uncle Sam to finance this project - since am due a nice tax refund !!
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Your stock block will hold 700-800 HP just fine as long as it's not blown already. The Teksids are a look for item as they were used in the 93-94 Lincoln MK VIII's and some Cobras as well.Jjust make sure it's not for a front wheel drive application or it won't work. The Romeo block is suitable as well but it's an iron block and around 60lbs heavier and add the weight of a supercharger and it's alot of weight on the front end. Boss 330, BBR, Livernois and several others build a nice short block. Jdm Engineering in NJ makes a wicked 298 CI stroker motor and a bad azz set of P&P'd 3V heads as well. Stroke it!!!
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Back to topic - does Don_W still come to these forums or did his spat with Granatelli drive him off? He had a fully built Teksid block and was very knowledgeable about this stuff.
You might want to track him down, I know he has a website for his 'Stang as well.
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Seeing that the check is coming from the IRS
even though I paid into it. There are tax breaks involved for having several dependents (Uncle Sam gives us). Then I was correct in my original statement - Uncle Sam is paying for this project. That the money was taken by Uncle Sam from my income and then paid back (IRS) is key here.
But yes you are correct in saying the money originally was mine to begin with.
Thanks for the info though.
But yes you are correct in saying the money originally was mine to begin with.
Thanks for the info though.
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Stock Block Horse Power Limits
Your stock block will hold 700-800 HP just fine as long as it's not blown already. The Teksids are a look for item as they were used in the 93-94 Lincoln MK VIII's and some Cobras as well.Jjust make sure it's not for a front wheel drive application or it won't work. The Romeo block is suitable as well but it's an iron block and around 60lbs heavier and add the weight of a supercharger and it's alot of weight on the front end. Boss 330, BBR, Livernois and several others build a nice short block. Jdm Engineering in NJ makes a wicked 298 CI stroker motor and a bad azz set of P&P'd 3V heads as well. Stroke it!!!
Does anyone know if this is true?
I am assuming you mean with Forged Internals (Pistons, Rods, Crank etc..)
I would feel better with a Romeo or Teksid block - If all I have to do is add
the Forge Internals to my existing block that would cut down the costs.
Also thinking of going with a bullitt proof automatic, alumimum driveshaft and 9 inch rear end. - Open Comments Guys & Gals.....
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Every failure I have heard about to date has been rods/pistons, which of course destroy the block a nanosecond later.
I would like to hear from somone who really understands this stuff. I can understand weak pistons and rods, but should I really be concerned about having a cast crank with less than 600 HP? What are the real benefits of running a forged crank over a cast crank in a 600 HP car?
It would be a fairly easy job to swap out pistons and rods, with the block in the car, if I didn't have to pull the crank.
I would like to hear from somone who really understands this stuff. I can understand weak pistons and rods, but should I really be concerned about having a cast crank with less than 600 HP? What are the real benefits of running a forged crank over a cast crank in a 600 HP car?
It would be a fairly easy job to swap out pistons and rods, with the block in the car, if I didn't have to pull the crank.
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These blocks are stronger than the old windsor blocks that would split down the middle upon occasion, not exactly sure of the limit, but a good guess would be about 7-800 flywheel horses, given all of the blower cars running around and all the racers running big #'s. Don W. had a problem with his motor when he KB'd it, but it was if memory serves me, it was a problem with the torque of the sparkplugs. Usually the weakest link is the problem, and thats usually not the block, even with forged internals, a bad tune or a fuel pump(or solenoid, even!!) giving out will cause catastrophic failure. The Livernios crew (i think) ran their big number car with a stock block, and stroked too.
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Safe to say then .....
A 2005 3V Alum. Block with Forged Cobra Crank, Forged Rods & Pistons -
professionally built can withstand 12-20 lbs of boost? My goal is 600-650HP.
Is this a realistic number? (Whipple Supercharger or Kennie Bell)
professionally built can withstand 12-20 lbs of boost? My goal is 600-650HP.
Is this a realistic number? (Whipple Supercharger or Kennie Bell)
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I would say yes, but contact Tim for a professional opinion http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/
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Noob question, but I've been researching on ebay and others and which forged parts will fit the new mustang? I've found a forged cobra crank and piston set, but it says for 2V and 4V 4.6l engines. Is this what we need? If not, could someone post the model numbers?
-Darth
-Darth
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GTRacerX,
When stating horsepower output we first need to understand if you are talking flywheel hp or rearwheel hp. Big difference. Lets assume you are talking flywheel hp for this post. The stock 2005 aluminum block will support this power output. (600-650 fwhp) The stock internals will not. So, use your stock block with forged internals, including the crank and you will be fine. You can add a mainbearing girdle to these engines to help strenghten the block in it's weaker areas. As far as the supercharger goes, I think either the KB or the Whipple are great choices and both will easily make the power you are looking for. One thing to remember about these engines. It is very important to remember that a proper tune will make all of the difference in the world whether your engine survives or not. They will not tolerate much detonation at all. This is the #1 engine killer. Forged internals or not. They can just take it a little longer. It is all in a proper tune.
Scott P.S. To answer your original question. For strength and light weight go with the Teskid block if you can find a good one.
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