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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Bamachips help

Okay so I have been leaning towards a CAI and tune. I have heard great things about Doug over at Bamachips and the service he offers. My questions is as follows. Which package from Bamachips is the best package as far as tune and CAI, also if someone could post a link to the package, would be great! Right now the only mod I have is a set of Flowmaster AT's and I would like to stay with regular octane gas! Not that I am against a Premium tune but as a daily driver and gas almost at $4 a gallon, it would just be a little much for the wallet. From what I understand is Bamachips offers custom tunes for a variety of different mods and octane uses, correct? I would like to get a 91 tune for occasional weekend drives or just plain fooling around but would use an 87 octane tune for normal daily use.

Has anyone on this board tried the 87 octane tune from Bamachips and if so what is your opinionof the performance over stock? Thanks for any and all help!!!
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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All of Dougs Intakes and Tunes are great! JLT and C&L are both great products so I would just choose one that fits your budget. And yes you can run the 87 tune just let Doug know what type of Tunes you want...87, 91, 93-Perf., Race, Torque

I run the 87 Tune from Brenspeed and it is great, and honestly a lot of my friends say there really isn't a whole lot of difference between the 93 and 87 anyways.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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I have an X2, tunes from Doug and the mods in my signature. My car is a daily driver and I average 28 MPG on the 87 octane WMS tune (it rocks!) during my 160 mile round trip each day traveling from my home at 2500 ft. to sea level and back. Of course it isn't much fun getting this kind of fuel economy ;-)
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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It should do away with most of the throttle lag throughout your gears
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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i asked him once, and he said he could make all three tunes (race, perf, and torq) all in 89 is i wanted to and i am going to order a 91 race tune soon cause i am going to be traveling cross contry soon and i need the tune cause i am running all three with 93 octane
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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I went with the C&L racer with all three 93 tunes. Its up to you on what your budget can handle. If you do the math you there isnt that much of a loss in dollars on fill ups. then you wont have the issue of trying to remember the octane and tune. I told my wife 93 only!! no problem. just my thoughts.

16 gallons- $ 2.75 87 octane= $44.00
16 gallons- $ 3.10 93 octane= $49.60
$ 5.60 difference


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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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I have the JLT II CAI and run the 87 performance from Bamachips. Spring is here so I just went to the 93 tune, but the 87 is fine. I was impressed. You can switch tunes for when you go to the track, if you want. I agree though, that the price is not usually more than .20 a gallon more for premium vs reg (.27 for a while last week here!). I recommend getting an 87 tune in case you end up with bad gas anyway.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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What is the main difference between the three tunes and why the difference in 87,89,91,93. What difference do you feel, does the 93 really help it that much more, if so...why would any one go with 87oct except for price...does 87 help more in MPG (assuming you drove it the same way)?....Maybe dumb question, but I am about to get these CAI/Tunes, and wondering which ones to get and why one over another?
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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87 Octane Works Well!

I bought Doug's Performance tune for my JLT II five months ago. The download and install was a piece of cake - less than 2 minutes to install. I immediately noticed that the car ran much smoother - everything seemed smoother! Six weeks ago I had an opportunity to check the difference. The results were amazing:

Stock factory baseline: 244.1 HP, 252.5 TQ (July 30, 2005)

JLT II, SCT 2, Doug's tune 271.2 HP, 269.9 TQ

That's 27.1 HP on 87 octane gas in an automatic! Back calculation gives an equivalent flywheel HP of 330. Both sets of numbers were recorded on the same Mustang dyno.

I had been using the standard tune supplied with the JLT II and only getting 263 HP. Not bad but not as good as Doug's. And, yes, I know I could do better at 93 octane but I'm a functional cheapskate who has great difficulty paying 20 cents more per gallon of gas!!
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisM
I bought Doug's Performance tune for my JLT II five months ago. The download and install was a piece of cake - less than 2 minutes to install. I immediately noticed that the car ran much smoother - everything seemed smoother! Six weeks ago I had an opportunity to check the difference. The results were amazing:

Stock factory baseline: 244.1 HP, 252.5 TQ (July 30, 2005)

JLT II, SCT 2, Doug's tune 271.2 HP, 269.9 TQ

That's 27.1 HP on 87 octane gas in an automatic! Back calculation gives an equivalent flywheel HP of 330. Both sets of numbers were recorded on the same Mustang dyno.

I had been using the standard tune supplied with the JLT II and only getting 263 HP. Not bad but not as good as Doug's. And, yes, I know I could do better at 93 octane but I'm a functional cheapskate who has great difficulty paying 20 cents more per gallon of gas!!
Awsome results.... but about te 93oct.....Thats only $3more a tank = $144/yr assuming you fill-up once a week. I spend more sometimes on a single stupid dinner.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa07GTCS
Awsome results.... but about the 93oct.....Thats only $3more a tank = $144/yr assuming you fill-up once a week. I spend more sometimes on a single stupid dinner.
Points well made - but my last sentence says it all: "... I'm a functional cheapskate who has great difficulty paying 20 cents more per gallon of gas!!"

So I'm just staying in the 87 octane world!
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa07GTCS
What is the main difference between the three tunes and why the difference in 87,89,91,93. What difference do you feel, does the 93 really help it that much more, if so...why would any one go with 87oct except for price...does 87 help more in MPG (assuming you drove it the same way)?....Maybe dumb question, but I am about to get these CAI/Tunes, and wondering which ones to get and why one over another?
You can add more timing to the tune with more octane, giving you more power. The 93 tune seems to get a little more aggressive sooner than the 87 octane tune. You can feel the difference, but it isn't huge. You might notice it more at the track at WOT, though. I haven't compared at the track or dyno yet. You get 3 tunes with the Bama package. I first got the 87 perf, 93 torque and 93 race. I found the torque and race too touchy for my foot and shifting in daily traffic and ended up getting the 93 performance. The torque tune is fun. You feel like you have a ton of power with almost no throttle and I kept that one for messing around. I only went to the track once with my car, so the race tune was being wasted. I like the ease of driving with the performance version of the tunes. That is what should have come from Ford. The race and torque would get bad drivers out of control, often.

You will hear many opinions on the different tunes, but they are all much better than stock. I decided on the 87 perf for the winter. I didn't need more than that and was happy, so I spent the extra money on better lunches.

On gas mileage with the tune, I have 4 months of experience. Stock I was getting 20.6 avg over 10 months of driving. Within 2 weeks of putting the Bama tune in, I was at 19.9. I think a big part of the mileage drop was the weather finally getting cold here. I did get the tuner around Christmas time. It finally got back to 20.1 or so. It then got warmer and I was up to 20.3 until I switched to the 93 perf tune this weekend and am back down at 20.1. I was testing out the Tri Ax shifter though, so I am waiting some days for it to recover. I don't plan to see too much of a difference in mpg in the three Bama tunes I own.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Has anyone done datalogging with the SCT on the 87 tunes or even the 91 or 93?
Mine shows a 30 peak advance on the high octane tune.
Is the the 87 more like 25 or 26?
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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also, do i need to get the $185ish diablo thing or the $399 one from bamachips and what are the differences?
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Old May 1, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ttbit
You can add more timing to the tune with more octane, giving you more power. The 93 tune seems to get a little more aggressive sooner than the 87 octane tune. You can feel the difference, but it isn't huge. You might notice it more at the track at WOT, though. I haven't compared at the track or dyno yet. You get 3 tunes with the Bama package. I first got the 87 perf, 93 torque and 93 race. I found the torque and race too touchy for my foot and shifting in daily traffic and ended up getting the 93 performance. The torque tune is fun. You feel like you have a ton of power with almost no throttle and I kept that one for messing around. I only went to the track once with my car, so the race tune was being wasted. I like the ease of driving with the performance version of the tunes. That is what should have come from Ford. The race and torque would get bad drivers out of control, often.

You will hear many opinions on the different tunes, but they are all much better than stock. I decided on the 87 perf for the winter. I didn't need more than that and was happy, so I spent the extra money on better lunches.

On gas mileage with the tune, I have 4 months of experience. Stock I was getting 20.6 avg over 10 months of driving. Within 2 weeks of putting the Bama tune in, I was at 19.9. I think a big part of the mileage drop was the weather finally getting cold here. I did get the tuner around Christmas time. It finally got back to 20.1 or so. It then got warmer and I was up to 20.3 until I switched to the 93 perf tune this weekend and am back down at 20.1. I was testing out the Tri Ax shifter though, so I am waiting some days for it to recover. I don't plan to see too much of a difference in mpg in the three Bama tunes I own.
Thank you for your clarification.....but this disproves everything I have heard about the tunes getting better MPG
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Old May 1, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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I went with the C&L racer with all three 93 tunes. Its up to you on what your budget can handle. If you do the math you there isnt that much of a loss in dollars on fill ups. then you wont have the issue of trying to remember the octane and tune. I told my wife 93 only!! no problem. just my thoughts.

16 gallons- $ 2.75 87 octane= $44.00
16 gallons- $ 3.10 93 octane= $49.60
$ 5.60 difference


Wow...you've got a $0.35 difference between 87 and 93? We're usually right at $0.20, sometimes $0.25.
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Old May 1, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chris_fowler99
Wow...you've got a $0.35 difference between 87 and 93? We're usually right at $0.20, sometimes $0.25.
Right now where I am northen Cali, Regular is going for $3.50 a gallon, just think about the premium price...... arm n leg
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Old May 1, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa07GTCS
Thank you for your clarification.....but this disproves everything I have heard about the tunes getting better MPG
I have heard it both ways. You don't know until you get some weeks of data, really. Some people like to report peak mileage numbers.
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