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The b u t t dyno indicates sluggishness

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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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The b u t t dyno indicates sluggishness

Does my car really feel sluggish? The b u t t dyno seems to feel that way. Or have I merely adjusted to and gotten bored with my current level of performance (NA with cai+tuner)? Did any of you have similar feelings after having your cai and tuner for a while?

It seems lately that I'm always having to downshift to get it into the higher rpms because some torque seems to be missing. In turns I'm getting onto the throttle too early before the apex and sometimes getting the rearend loose (I think I am doing this because i'm impatient and i feel slow when exiting a turn, and getting onto the throttle again on the straightaway). I know that I'm doing a horrible job to accurately describing what is happening. Basically I'm not driving it smooth anymore because i'm trying to find some missing torque. Does this make any sense?

I may remove the cai and flash back to stock for a few days, just so I can have something to compare it to. The next step after that is taking it to a dyno and see if there really is any missing power that can be found.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Just a thought, try to reload the tune and see what happens.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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I have always thought my GT didn't have enough low end. I came from a 350ci cammed and carbed camaro that made a crap load of low end, so I never really thought the mustang had grunt. The blower seems to have resolved that :-)
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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try resetting your tb
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mvon919
try resetting your tb
hmmmm....certainly worth a try. Could the throttle position sensor be a hair off?
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Yeah I think a lot of it is in your head, but you might think about investing in a set of 4.10 gears...They were really wake the car up - especially down low
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by neil07gt
Does my car really feel sluggish? The b u t t dyno seems to feel that way. Or have I merely adjusted to and gotten bored with my current level of performance (NA with cai+tuner)? Did any of you have similar feelings after having your cai and tuner for a while?
Yes, I have similar feelings every day.

I've gone as far as I can go NA, IMHO. Adding cams or illegal (in CA) headers or O/R pipes IMHO will be fabulous money wasters that won't add anything worthwhile to the "butt-o-meter".

Unfortunately I don't have the $7k or so (quoted from Adam ST Motorsports) to s/c the car, which is the logical next step.

What to do? What to do?
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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These cars are low end torque deficient. Plain and simple.

You cannot change the fact that you are pulling around 3400 lbs with a 281ci super small block engine.

It will never have the feel of a 400+ cubic inch muscle car down low. Unless you supercharge it that is, but I am really more of a NA sort of guy.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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True these engines need some RPM to work. The torque is there but just not in the low end like it is on larger engines. Compared to old style pushrod engines these mod engines are alot more sophisticated. Overall they are a lot more efficient, you just gotta spin them higher.
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