All 12 Sec N/A Automatics - whats your secret
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All 12 Sec N/A Automatics - whats your secret
I am trying to make a desision on what Mods will get me in to the 12's and I have been searching past posts and found some of my heros..
I want to hear from all Autos in the 12's Natural Asperated (no Nos)
Mods you have and what you like or wish you did different.
atomic_il (12.583 @ 107.09)
05 GT Automatic
C&L Intake w/ Bamachips tune
TCI 3000 converter
Aluminum d/s
FRPP 4.10's
CMCP Deletes
Electric waterpump
Hooker LT Headers
O/R H-pipe
Borla catbacks
K-member brace w/ tq limiters
Prothane engine mounts
enitalp (12.908 @ 109.69)
2005 GT Sonic Blue. Auto Trans.
Steeda Underdrive Pulley,
SCT XCAL 2,
Steeda CAI,
Corsa Exhaust,
UCA, LCA,
SwayBar Relocation,
Holeshot Holestar 15x10 wheel, MT ET Drag 28x10.5x15,
SLP LineLock.
TCI 3000 on his way.
Ren274U (12.891 @ 106.21)
I want to hear from all Autos in the 12's Natural Asperated (no Nos)
Mods you have and what you like or wish you did different.
atomic_il (12.583 @ 107.09)
05 GT Automatic
C&L Intake w/ Bamachips tune
TCI 3000 converter
Aluminum d/s
FRPP 4.10's
CMCP Deletes
Electric waterpump
Hooker LT Headers
O/R H-pipe
Borla catbacks
K-member brace w/ tq limiters
Prothane engine mounts
enitalp (12.908 @ 109.69)
2005 GT Sonic Blue. Auto Trans.
Steeda Underdrive Pulley,
SCT XCAL 2,
Steeda CAI,
Corsa Exhaust,
UCA, LCA,
SwayBar Relocation,
Holeshot Holestar 15x10 wheel, MT ET Drag 28x10.5x15,
SLP LineLock.
TCI 3000 on his way.
Ren274U (12.891 @ 106.21)
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when i ran that time my best n/a i had
bamachips perf 93 tune
JLT2
3.73
Steeda UDP
CMDP
High Flow Catted X
BMR LCA UCA
Spyer Aluminum D/S
Stocks Wheels and Tires at 32 psi
bamachips perf 93 tune
JLT2
3.73
Steeda UDP
CMDP
High Flow Catted X
BMR LCA UCA
Spyer Aluminum D/S
Stocks Wheels and Tires at 32 psi
#5
When i ran this time i was with only :
Steeda Underdrive Pulley,
SCT XCAL 2,
Steeda CAI,
Corsa Exhaust,
Bamachip 93 Race Tune.
4.10 gear
On Nitto 555 street tire.
Braking on the line, putting my rpm at 2000. Waiting for the last yellow, release the brake. Floor it. Wait.
My Rear end was lock a little more than stock.
I will change nothing to my mod progress. But this year i started to make mistake. Going to 28" slick was an error. By best on slick is last saturday 13.006. I will change for 26" as soon as possible.
On my table i have my TCI 3000, waiting for a PA deep pan.
As my rear end clutch are dead for the second time i'm also waiting for a detroit truelock.
Next will be DS, EH2O.
Steeda Underdrive Pulley,
SCT XCAL 2,
Steeda CAI,
Corsa Exhaust,
Bamachip 93 Race Tune.
4.10 gear
On Nitto 555 street tire.
Braking on the line, putting my rpm at 2000. Waiting for the last yellow, release the brake. Floor it. Wait.
My Rear end was lock a little more than stock.
I will change nothing to my mod progress. But this year i started to make mistake. Going to 28" slick was an error. By best on slick is last saturday 13.006. I will change for 26" as soon as possible.
On my table i have my TCI 3000, waiting for a PA deep pan.
As my rear end clutch are dead for the second time i'm also waiting for a detroit truelock.
Next will be DS, EH2O.
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When i ran this time i was with only :
Steeda Underdrive Pulley,
SCT XCAL 2,
Steeda CAI,
Corsa Exhaust,
Bamachip 93 Race Tune.
4.10 gear
On Nitto 555 street tire.
Braking on the line, putting my rpm at 2000. Waiting for the last yellow, release the brake. Floor it. Wait.
My Rear end was lock a little more than stock.
I will change nothing to my mod progress. But this year i started to make mistake. Going to 28" slick was an error. By best on slick is last saturday 13.006. I will change for 26" as soon as possible.
Next will be DS, EH2O.
Steeda Underdrive Pulley,
SCT XCAL 2,
Steeda CAI,
Corsa Exhaust,
Bamachip 93 Race Tune.
4.10 gear
On Nitto 555 street tire.
Braking on the line, putting my rpm at 2000. Waiting for the last yellow, release the brake. Floor it. Wait.
My Rear end was lock a little more than stock.
I will change nothing to my mod progress. But this year i started to make mistake. Going to 28" slick was an error. By best on slick is last saturday 13.006. I will change for 26" as soon as possible.
Next will be DS, EH2O.
I can't get the RPM's that high with the stock stall, the best I can do is 1600 -1800 before my front tires start to slide across the line ....
Right Now I have
JLT II CAI, UDP, FRPP 4.10 and MAC Axle-Back
I also use the stock rims with BFG 275/40 17 Drag Radials
my best so far in the 1/4 is
13.31 @ 103.31 1.98 60' ALt 600ft Temp 82 Deg
http://home.comcast.net/~2k05gt/Best-Timeslip07.jpg
my best 1/8 was 8.42. My concern is that my 1/4 mile trap speed is so low
and my tranny is shifting into 4th before the trap..
My tune is from Evolution but I am considering changing to someone else because of the support level.
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so from what I have learned so far, after several weeks of research on other forums.
Order you should install your mods....
1. CAI and Tuner... (looks like Bama may be the way to go)
2. UDP
3. Gears (3.73 or 4.10)
4. CMDP
5. 3000 stall (Autos Shifter for Manual)
6. Drag Radials (Weld Wheels)
7. LCA, UCA
8. Aluminum d/s
9. Sway bar removal
10. Headers, Mid Pipes (waste of money if just HP is needed)
11. K-member
12. Prothane engine mounts
then 12's are here yippie...
(Red denotes what I already have installed)
Order you should install your mods....
1. CAI and Tuner... (looks like Bama may be the way to go)
2. UDP
3. Gears (3.73 or 4.10)
4. CMDP
5. 3000 stall (Autos Shifter for Manual)
6. Drag Radials (Weld Wheels)
7. LCA, UCA
8. Aluminum d/s
9. Sway bar removal
10. Headers, Mid Pipes (waste of money if just HP is needed)
11. K-member
12. Prothane engine mounts
then 12's are here yippie...
(Red denotes what I already have installed)
#9
On auto's here's what you want...
1. Intake/Tune
2. Gears
3. Wheels/Tires
4. Torque Converter
5. LCA's/UCA
There's the perfect combo for a 12 sec auto. To be more specific go with this...
1. C&L "Racer" Intake/SCT XCal II w/Bama 93 Race Tune
2. FRPP 4.10 Gears
3. Weld XP 15x9's/MT ET Street 275/50/15's
4. PI 3200 Stall Torque Converter
5. CHE Tubular LCA's/CHE Adj. UCA
Those are the brands that I'd go with for sure, as some that I already have on mine. My converter and wheels/tires are up next and will be on and ready to go here in the next two weeks or so.
1. Intake/Tune
2. Gears
3. Wheels/Tires
4. Torque Converter
5. LCA's/UCA
There's the perfect combo for a 12 sec auto. To be more specific go with this...
1. C&L "Racer" Intake/SCT XCal II w/Bama 93 Race Tune
2. FRPP 4.10 Gears
3. Weld XP 15x9's/MT ET Street 275/50/15's
4. PI 3200 Stall Torque Converter
5. CHE Tubular LCA's/CHE Adj. UCA
Those are the brands that I'd go with for sure, as some that I already have on mine. My converter and wheels/tires are up next and will be on and ready to go here in the next two weeks or so.
#10
There is nothing wrong with that, especially with 4.10s. Hell, mine is in 4th gear way before the 1/8-mile mark even.
#11
12.29 @110.9 n/a auto stock longblock with lots of bolt ons and suspension work
1)torque converter
2)spydershaft
3)tune from bama for above converter
even with the 3.31 gears and the stock air intake i think you can runs 12's with these 3 mods.
the key is getting it to launch and rev quickly
once you replace the converter you will need some sticky tires or else you will just roast the hides during every launch.
1)torque converter
2)spydershaft
3)tune from bama for above converter
even with the 3.31 gears and the stock air intake i think you can runs 12's with these 3 mods.
the key is getting it to launch and rev quickly
once you replace the converter you will need some sticky tires or else you will just roast the hides during every launch.
#12
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12.29 @110.9 n/a auto stock longblock with lots of bolt ons and suspension work
1)torque converter
2)spydershaft
3)tune from bama for above converter
even with the 3.31 gears and the stock air intake i think you can runs 12's with these 3 mods.
the key is getting it to launch and rev quickly
once you replace the converter you will need some sticky tires or else you will just roast the hides during every launch.
1)torque converter
2)spydershaft
3)tune from bama for above converter
even with the 3.31 gears and the stock air intake i think you can runs 12's with these 3 mods.
the key is getting it to launch and rev quickly
once you replace the converter you will need some sticky tires or else you will just roast the hides during every launch.
My next mods then are Spiders Drive Shaft and the TCI3000
can the converter be self installed? or shop only, I know I can do the driveshaft, I am somwhat of an amature mechanic, rebuilt a few motors 20 years ago.
I am installing the CMCV Deletes this week and ordering a Bama Tune since EVO if not responding to fixing my current ones.
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How much better is it compaired to others, like EVO, Blueoval, Brenspeed?
My Evo tune is real nice, problem is support. I had some huge lag with the 87 octane evo tune and was trying to get it fixed because I bought all three 87,93,100 tunes but I can only use the 93 because it is the only one that works.
what is bama's policy on tune ajustments and adding mods like the converter
or headers.
My Evo tune is real nice, problem is support. I had some huge lag with the 87 octane evo tune and was trying to get it fixed because I bought all three 87,93,100 tunes but I can only use the 93 because it is the only one that works.
what is bama's policy on tune ajustments and adding mods like the converter
or headers.
#15
How much better is it compaired to others, like EVO, Blueoval, Brenspeed?
My Evo tune is real nice, problem is support. I had some huge lag with the 87 octane evo tune and was trying to get it fixed because I bought all three 87,93,100 tunes but I can only use the 93 because it is the only one that works.
what is bama's policy on tune ajustments and adding mods like the converter
or headers.
My Evo tune is real nice, problem is support. I had some huge lag with the 87 octane evo tune and was trying to get it fixed because I bought all three 87,93,100 tunes but I can only use the 93 because it is the only one that works.
what is bama's policy on tune ajustments and adding mods like the converter
or headers.
dougs tune dropped my car from 12.60's to that 12.29 with no other changes. i loaded in his tune and instantly went 3-4 tenths quicker and i thought my car ran well at the time so i didn't really expect that big of a drop. i was running 12.60's at 110mph in perfect weather now i run 12.50''s-60's in crappy weather 90+degrees DA >2800ft etc.
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