I would've assumed otherwise considering you used the words "I would expect." I suppose congratulations are in order then for outdriving the owners of faster cars.

 

You perhaps interpreted my unfortunate choice of verbs too literally.

As to the the M3 being a faster car, on three separate occasions now I have simply not found that to be the case.

But thank you for the congratulations.

 

aw jeez...what eva dog.

we can respect a good car right?
well the m3 is a great car.

 

I can back that up (repeatedly), and I can vouch for the car over 100 mph on a little bumpy two lane country road...course it runs into a nice hard turn and when your on the brakes real hard, you can feel those BFG KDWS squirming under the load.

 

The car is extremely predictable though at higher speeds. When screaming around a corner, if you touch the gas a little, the front end will start pushing out toward the outside of the corner. Let off, and it regains traction very nicely. Very easy to control through the corners.

 

What is the top speed for the 06's, i've been 135. anyone higher?

 

140 in an 07

 

i have no idea why im laughing, i cant stop.
dang thats fast

 

256 km/h (160mph) in an 05, limiter removed, see mods below. That's the speed my GPS showed, so I don't want to claim it as an official personal record

Back on topic: do not underestimate the new 335i, it's a great machine!

 

LOUIE!!!!!
was it very stable at that speed?

 

Limiter? What limiter?
We have a limiter?

Do you kow what it's setup at?
And how did you remove it?

 

It is. I've driven one. Overall, it just feels more fluid, effortless and light on its feet than the Mustang. There is a greater perception of precision in the steering, shifting...everthing.

That's not to say the Mustang doesn't feel solid and stable. It does. It's just that the entire driving experience feels "clunkier" in the Mustang, though I'm not certain that's an altogether bad thing - it is supposed to be a modern muscle car, after all.

I would definitely say the Mustang has more personality than the 335i; that it is more "theatrical" and entertaining to drive.

 

I'm 99% sure the limiter on the 05-06's is set at 149mph.

 

I guess i'll have to do a 2007 test.

 

It was stable enough, but it was on a stretch of the Autobahn where I knew the surface was perfect. Also, keep an eye on the hood. I had hood pins on, so the "flutter" was no issue. Still not satisfying enough, because I was overtaken by a 911 Turbo doing at least 180 mph.

I'm not sure where the limiter is set, but it can easily be removed with an XCal2 or Diablosport tuner.

I cannot agree more with this statement

 

numbers dont go that high, but the car felt like it could still go. i need a blower!!!

 

Who said the m3 was a faster car? i have friends with m3's and they are beautiful cars but even they know the stang will take them.

 

The guy I was replying to. Go back a bit further in the thread.

 

Well, if you're gonna get beaten, might as well get beaten by the best.

 

Around 150 mph. I thought it felt very floaty. Relevant mods at the time were supercharger and BFG KDW2 255/285. Didn't have the Roush suspension at the time.

I had one eye on the hood the entire time, but it was good. My hood used to flutter extremely bad, but I messed with the bump stops enough that it's very stable now.

This is just my opinion, but I think the S197 is at a disadvantage at high speeds because it's so anti-aerodynamic. July 06 Hot Rod reported the GT500 to have a coefficient of drag of .38 (according to a post on stangsunleashed.com). I imagine that's better than a normal S197.


Didn't Motortrend record a 13.5 quartermile for the S197 and a 13.3 for the 2002 M3? That difference is substantial. Also, there are a couple of posts on some M3 forums about getting into the 12s with perfect track conditions. Those cars are no joke... handle well too, or so I hear.