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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Having a friendly debate at work, and wanted to get your opinion.

So what would it take for a street race setting, for the '05 Mustang GT to beat the '05 GTO. Say both are manuals for the sake of argument.

( No, I have no plans on any race with any car including the GTO). A person in the building next to us just bought one, so the conversation started!

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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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An ever-so-slightly better driver in the mustang.

When I went to the strip a couple months ago, there were two '05 6.2L GTOs there, and they were running worse times than the 2 GTs, both of which were stock. However, with a good driver behind the wheel, I imagine the GTO would win, though not by much at all.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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How many horse power are int he GTO?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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I thought that even though the GTO has more horsepower, that the Mustang GT still had a much better 0-60 time. I know the mustang is lacking on the 1/4 mile but it's quicker off the start.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by PonyGirl@August 2, 2005, 12:47 PM
How many horse power are int he GTO?
The 2005 has 400 and the 2004 has 350.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by withinavoid@August 2, 2005, 12:48 PM
I thought that even though the GTO has more horsepower, that the Mustang GT still had a much better 0-60 time. I know the mustang is lacking on the 1/4 mile but it's quicker off the start.
I believe that was the case with the pre-05s, with the 5.7 liter, 350 HP engine, not the new one.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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A good driver versus a bad driver will make the difference. Given equal drivers, a good tune and CAI on the stang should even the field.

EDIT- I typed too slow, Tim beat me to it
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Didnt someone on these boards take a stock 05 gt to a 13.27 run or something like that with just tires? Thats right around stock GTO 6 speed territory. But with just intake, exhaust, and a tune im sure the average person could stay even.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Just for the sake of having the info, C&D got times of 4.8 (0-60) and 13.3 (1/4 mile) out of the '05 GTO in their Jan. '05 issue.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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didnt C&D get 4.9 in the mustang after it was broken in? or was the R&T?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by withinavoid@August 2, 2005, 11:48 AM
I thought that even though the GTO has more horsepower, that the Mustang GT still had a much better 0-60 time. I know the mustang is lacking on the 1/4 mile but it's quicker off the start.
From what I have seen they are a dead heat 0-60. The only times I have seen for both by a common tester are 4.9. The best times I have seen have 4.8 for the GTO and 4.9 for the Stang, but these come from different sources. As for the 1/4 mile the best times I have seen are 13.5 for the Stang and 13.3 for the GTO. For a few bolt-ons like pulleys, CAI and a tuner the stang should pull even or beat the GTO with equally matched drivers. As mentioned above just a better driver would also make up the difference.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Fazm@August 2, 2005, 12:01 PM
didnt C&D get 4.9 in the mustang after it was broken in? or was the R&T?
MT got 4.9 on a broken in manual tranny Stang. They also got 5.1 on a auto straight off the production line and 5.2 with a vert, don't know if it was auto or manual.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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WOW....interesting answers. I LOVE IT!!!
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Put bananas in their tail pipes
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by 05stangster@August 2, 2005, 3:46 PM
Put bananas in their tail pipes


or a ricer can
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by PonyGirl@August 2, 2005, 2:39 PM
Having a friendly debate at work, and wanted to get your opinion.

So what would it take for a street race setting, for the '05 Mustang GT to beat the '05 GTO. Say both are manuals for the sake of argument.

( No, I have no plans on any race with any car including the GTO). A person in the building next to us just bought one, so the conversation started!

THanks!!
How much will it take? Just an ignition key.....
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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The Best Heads up comparison was done by Car & Driver in their Jan 2005 Issue.

The GTO @ 400hp 440 ft-lb of torque

0-60 = 4.8
1/4 Mile = 13.3 @ 107mph

The 05 GT @ 300hp 320 ft-lb of torque

0-60=5.1
1/4 Mile = 13.8 @ 103mph

As you can see, the preformance difference is easly within the Driver's skill Make or break point.

I suspect that a CAI+TUNE will put the 05 GT ahead assuming that both are good drivers....

Added With the edit:

Let me put it this way. If you add enough go fast parts to the Mustang to equal the price difference between the two cars, the Mustang will easly win... ( This is the point that will irritate the GTO owner the most )
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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The GTO @ 400hp 440 ft-lb of torque
the gto doesnt have 440, it has 400.

and i dont know if thats a great review, because they got a good time for the gto, and a bad (¼ mile) time for the mustang.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Sorry, I fat fingered the 440 number, the 400Ft-Lb is correct....

The GTO stock for stock is a little faster, but considering that it is 3-4K more expensive and has 400hp, it should be significantly faster and it is not....

Add 2-3K to the Mustang and it would not even be a race.....
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