SONICBOOST

We'll thats meee

05GT-O.C.D.

(and good tires too, you will need to hook up quick)

1999 Black 35th GT

Well, considering stock for stock the STi has the Mustang GT but it's certainly not a "killing"

Here are the stats:

STi
0-60: 4.8 sec
0-100: 12.9 sec
1/4 mile: 13.2 sec

GT
0-60: 5.2 sec
0-100: 13.2 sec
1/4 mile: 13.9 sec

I also don't see where the price difference of $9,000 is coming from. A base Mustang GT starts at $26,440 while the lowest STi starts at $33,495. Last time I checked my math that was a difference of $7,055.

Now, I know someone is going to say "well that's the MSRP and I can get it for less," but the same can be said for the STi. Becker Subaru in Allentown will sell an STi at $800 over invoice, if not less by now because of the new model coming out.

This is all beside the point however. The fact is that we are comparing apples to oranges. One car is a muscle car pure and simple of which I have no doubt can be made to whoop the tar out of an STi; however the other car is a pure-bred rally car that can tear grooves into the asphalt and leave a Mustang in it's rearview mirror on the twisties. That and there are plenty of mods out there for the STi as well, some relatively inexpensive that can really add quite a punch to an already potent and stout engine.

Really, the question comes down to not which is better, because they both have their strong and weak points but rather which one is right for you. They are both wonderful pieces of machinery.

1999 Black 35th GT

Soooo I guess following that quote then a Shelby GT is just a tarted up GT premium then?

The fact is while the size of the engine may be the same almost everything else has been completely revamped like the suspension, brakes, fuel system, compression ratio, transmission, etc.. etc...

It's probably best not to knock what you have not had the opportunity to test drive.

drakino

I don't like the new Subaru grill look, and it was a shame to see it on the STi's as well. But, I'd still have to get over the gold wheels, and ridiculous looking wing as well before I considered one.

One of my new neighbors has a WRX, and seeing it up close confirms I still dislike the look.

My experience might be tainted though by an STi owner I know who I will never ride with again. Lets just say the one time I did ride with him, it was in LA traffic, and he was pretty reckless.

Zastava_101

According to Yahoo Autos base Mustang GT is $25,695. So the difference is $7,800. Still a big difference.

1999 Black 35th GT

But you get the beauty of AWD

StangPower05

According to CARS.COM, The GT is faster!! Also what i thought!

Here are the stats for the STI:
Estimated Performance Specs

0-60 mph 5.49 seconds 1/4 mile 13.92 seconds at 97.17 mph Lateral acceleration .87 g Slalom 62 mph

Zastava_101

Those numbers are way off. Regular WRX have 1/4 mile time 14.3 sec. Sti is a lot faster than that.

StangPower05

those numbers are given to them by subaru themselves!

n00bstang

anyone ever actually race one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QSRnpLMbZA

EDIT: that's not even an 05. frkn liar.

shamrock

Yes in a straight line it would be close, but on a twisty road a mustang could never keep up with an STI and thats a fact. And to who ever said that they have weak tranny's, the wrx has a weak tranny, but the sti is very strong. There are a lot of mods you can do to a wrx or sti.

Mustang GT vs. STI or even a WRX on a twisty road. Mustang STi

Mustang GT vs. STi straight line

Both are nice cars though and a WRX/STi is not what I would consider
rice

n00bstang

don't worry suby man, we respect the subarus.
but with that said

wrx mustang

i just thought the mustang deserved at least one instead of a

OKCMustangGT

I see a couple of these around town and the picture a few posts back. My opinion still hasn't changed, that cars is FUGLY.
I couldn't care less if it was faster in the curves, the drag strip, or both I would never own one.

rhumb

STi would likely beat a Stang anywhere.

On the strip, it would be close -- having to brutalize the Subby at launch and get throttle and clutch modulation just so -- but it would it should do it. The Subby would be a touch trickery, powerband-wise than the broad-shouldered powerband of the Stang, which could be considered good (more driver involvement, it is a performance car afterall), or bad (nothing beats the easy, torquey oomph of a big V8 , except maybe a V10, 12 or 16, but then, my Lotto ticket hasn't born fruit yet...).

On the twisties or hitting the no pedal, no contest and the tougher the going gets, the better the Subby would do. Simply a better chassis that is more highly developed.

Of course, there is that issue of a face only a mother could love and a motor that sounds like a 2 cylinder chugging away. And the STi does cost a pretty penny more, but you do get an awful lot for that money, so they're probably equal values, bang for the buck wise.

At least now they have an STi Limited or something that does away with some of the goofy wings and whatnot for those not wanting to look like they're looking for the next rally segment.

1999 Black 35th GT

Just look out for the WRX TR's. Even though they are the 226hp engine they are lighter than the STi's and very easy to modify. It takes less power to make a TR run what the STi does because of the weight difference.

People running 250-260 hp in the TR's will produce timeslips relative or better than an STi.... now in the twisties the STi will still take the TR because of the driver controlled center differential but thats a whole other story.

LEO_06GT

I've raced several STI's at the local 1/8th mile track. Of the 4 or 5 I've raced I've only lost to one. Even with AWD you have to take into account the driver plust they're RT. All this crap in magazines means nothing unless you have an auto (like me) because then the only thing left to chance is your RT which doesn't affect your ET.

boduke0220

i know the 0-60 on the mustang says 5.2 but i saw an ad the other day that had the mustang gt and it said 0-60 4.9..wtf?

Every_Mn

Magazines are full of crap. There are so many variables there's no definitive 0-60, only under those circumstances.

The same car and the same driver will not be as fast on a summer afternoon at 5100ft altitude as it will on a winter night at sea level.

n00bstang

Ford says it's 0-60 in 4.9. 2007's go 0-60 in 5.4 or something like that.

with all that said Subaru says the Sti goes from 0-60 now.