I raced a 360 Spider (Not good with Ferraris, So Im not sure if thats the same thing as a Modena or not) and I was following about 3 cars behind waiting in second gear around 40...Sure enough the Ferrari punched it and so did I, I pulled on him good through second, shifted into Third and woulda ran into his bumper so I let off. You can call BS if you want, Im not going to lose any sleep over it, Im just stating what happened.

 

You guys keep forgetting that cars can't drive themselves! Sure, I actually almost lapped a Ferrari 333SP (a full on prototype racer) at Watkins Glen in my Z/28. I could have done it if he would have let me by a second time but he kept blocking me. I almost got by him when I dove deep inside at the toe of the boot, but he pinched me. I wasn't about to trade paint with his $1MM car. The point is, if the guy knew how to drive the darn thing he would likely have lapped me about 5 times during our run session. I know it's a great ego booster to get a good run on an a supposedly superior exotic, but you just need to be reasonable about what's actually happening. Now excuse me while I go put my flamesuit on...

 

That's what they call the convertable modenas. I raced one too on the highway with less mods than I have now and pulled away from him up to 100.

 

That's like the dumbest thing I've ever read. How is high 12s in the 1/4 and low 4s to 60 not very fast?


Dude, where do you live that you've lost count of how many Modena owners were embarassed by losses? Hollywood Hills?

The fact is that if they were both up around 140mph, he still had another 40mph to go so he was either toying with him or (more likely) he lost his nerve to go much faster.

 

No way..... BUT how about a SUPERCHARGED Mustang? (Okay, the road has to be straight and pretty short)

 

Gottcha thanks!

 

When $70,000 vettes are running deep into the 11's bone stock and high 10's with drag radials, high 12's is definatly nothing to write home about. Welcome to the Houston street racing scene, you aren't **** unless you have 600+ rwhp. My bolt-on/sprayed 400rwhp GT is a little fish in a big pond. Definatly not impressing anyone. It's almost flat out embarassing to show up to a meet and say you only run low 12's.

This isn't a top speed race so what the hell are you talking about 40 mph left to go?

 

nice run, would ahve loved to see that.

 

going back to your 400 hp car only makes 350 hp.....that's crazy...it's a ferrari, it's built with optimal components, and my 2003 cobra which makes 390 HP at the engine via ford stats, I took it to a dyno bone stock and put down 365 to the rear wheels, and I was running a bit rich....not too bad, but a touch.....your claim holds no water. if the guy could drive worth a hoot, the modena would take you. I have alot of faith in mustangs, but it just isn't gonna happen. if you were in 4th gear at that kind of RPM, your car won't accelerate much at all compared to him, high strung motors are gonna destroy on rolling high speed. he has 8000 RPM, if you never left 4th and he went through 2, it's cause he went up hit a gear, realized you were falling and laid off and downshifted. or he was in 6th gear downshifting. I have a 6 speed, and I don't shift any more then a regular mustang until speeds are upwards of 150-160, the car weighs less, and the thing about you getting 30 hp from a tune!? must have been the new flux capacitor tune...I got 15 out of a supercharged car that was running rich....that was it. sorry. not trying to be a butt, but you didn't beat the car, you beat the driver.

 

As they say: everything is relative.

So how may Ferarris are showing up at these meets anyway? So many that you've forgotten how many?

And in the case of this thread it was a top speed race because he said he was keeping up with him at 140mph. That Ferarri makes it's peak HP at 8500rpm so he would have been pulling away if he was really in it.

You're the one who turned this into a drag race when it was from a roll into triple digit speeds.

 

Ok mister "I don't know **** about the cobra I own". It's comon knowledge that 03/04 cobras are underrated from the factory and make plenty more than 390hp at the crank. 12-15% power loss through the drivetrain is normal.

Why am I even bothering explaining this? Bye.

 

You see ferraris on occasion (maybe one every couple of months) but most ferrari people aren't into street meets and you just happen to run into them on the street for a quick run. Coaxing them into racing the "poor little american V8" is very easy.

I doubt he was going 140 mph, he even said that he wasn't sure. Drag/Roll, it's all a straight line and that's what I'm getting at.

 

whatever dude.

 

Jake , I guess I was just surprised by your comments, you said:
"Modenas are nothing to write home about. Poor man's Ferrari. They aren't very fast in a straight line."

I am a poor man and I just don't consider a $100K USED car a "poor man's" anything. And at any price anything that will do 12's and 185mph is fast IMHO.

Like I said it's all relative, no matter how much horespower you have there is always someone faster than you somewhere. Like Sean Connery said in the Untouchables:"they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way."

 

LOL! I was thinking the same thing when I read his post

I see plenty of Terminators that dyno 370..Even a local mystic put down 380 STOCK! It doesn't mean the parasitic loss through the drivetrain is any less than a ferrari, it means they are VERY underrated.

 

so do we have any stats on the modena from 100 to 140 mph or even from 100 to 120??

 

No because Stats and magazine numbers don't account for much on the street.

 

but glenn does bring up a valid point regarless, cuase both the mustangs and the ferraris would be track times which would be comparable.

Also we have no idea what gear the ferrari was in and what rpm he shifted at.

Being that the 360 and his mustang are only about 60-70hp different there is no reason to doubt the story.

 

lol...nice discussoin so far. Ferrari Stang war!

Just so there is no confusion. i didn't say i beat a Modena. Or that even I out accelerated one. Heck i expected to be BLOW away, but was surprised instead.

What i said was that i kept up with him on the highway at high speeds.
If we started side by side...he did pull away. But once i was over 4k rpm. he was no longer pulling away.

ANd yes with the tune, ALL the power is over 4k rpm It still pulls pretty good over 6k.
If i swtiched to 5th then he would slgithly pull away. But i was unable to get the RPMS up again in 5th since we hit some traffic. Only hit 5th once the whole time. So can't realy judge the TOP Gear.

btw. even though a car is rated at 395hp, it doesnt' mean that it will do those numbers, especially on a car that has signigicantly lower torque/hp precentage.

And all the nay sayers, beleive it or not. I've been there and done that. Im just give you the scoop. And yes he did have the car floored when i was behind him.

Even got a worthy apponent acknowgement knod.
lol

 

I think everyone will agree that in this case the original poster beat the driver of the ferrari and not necessarily the car itself.