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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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Stang and a Modena...

Thought I'd give you the low down on my run in with a Modena coming back from work today.

So there i am cruiseing home at 75mph in the fastlane. While looking in my rearview i notice some low HID lights in the distance. First i though it maybe a Gallardo, but as it got closer it was unmistakeably a Ferrari Modena.

So i change lanes to the middle to let him pass. As he's come up beside me, I drop down to 4th and get on his *** and suprisingly im able to keep up. We're pretty much doing this for the next 15 miles or so.
At one point he pulls to the middle lane and we are side by side doing about 90. We both hit it and he starts to put away at a steady but slow pace, as I have my Stang floored at this point at about 3500rpm in 4th. By the time i reach 5000rpm he already switched 2 gears (im assuming due to his 6 speed tranny). And its at this point that my Stang finally open up and i could feel the steady pull. After about 1.5 car lengths on me, i was able to keep the same distance between us. Funny thing is, for the whole 30 miles or so that it lasted, i switched to 5th gear only once. The whole time i was in 4th. Most of the power seems to be between 4000-6500rpm.

Anyway to make a short story shorter. Once my Stang was over 4000 RPM the Modena barely pulled away, i was on him the whole time only a car length away. I'm sure we reached speeds of about 140 or more, but i wasn't paying attention to the speedo.
I thought i would get creamed, i just had to find out what it would be like to race an Italian Stalion and was very impressed with the Stangs performance. But i am sure that if we started off from a light it would be a different story. But on Highways the Modena and the Stang are very very very very close in performance.

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I drive a 2007 GT and i was running a BAMA 91 octane Tune with a C&L CAI.

Can't wait to Fill up with 93 octance and Bama Tune and try this again!!
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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He was playing with you or he didn't know how to drive. Don't get too excited.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RobK
He was playing with you or he didn't know how to drive. Don't get too excited.
+1. I'd have to agree with RobK.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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YEP! I agree with the 2 fellows above! The Modena is a FAST car, and will go to almost 8,000 RPMs.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Yeah, dude, hate to rain on your parade, but the Mustang is no challege for a Modena. But, it shouldnt be, Modena's are 10x the price...
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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I've got to agree with everyone else... The Modena has impressive numbers
0-62 mph: 4.35 s
0-100 mph: 10.2 s
0-1/4 mile : 12.3 s @ 119 mph
Top speed : 185 mph

From a 3.6L V-8 with a 8500 rpm redline with 395 bhp @ 8500 rpm and 275 lbf·ft @ 4750 rpm
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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FYI..

He had the thing floored...I could hear it reving, screaming at its top, and while he was changing gears.

Like is said i was above 4RPM practically the whole time, even when we had to slow down a few times.
And if we were on a stop light he would blow my doors no problem. Even when we were side by side he pulled away while going through 2 gears. But once we were cruising at 130Mph and up, i was on top of him the whole time. Sure he was still pulling away very very slowly. I would not have been able to pass him.

Anyway, next time your on the highway with a Modena try it yourselves. Modena is fast, but the Stang can hold its own.

Lets just say that he would NOT be able to loose a Stang on the highway!!
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Strickland
I've got to agree with everyone else... The Modena has impressive numbers
0-62 mph: 4.35 s
0-100 mph: 10.2 s
0-1/4 mile : 12.3 s @ 119 mph
Top speed : 185 mph

From a 3.6L V-8 with a 8500 rpm redline with 395 bhp @ 8500 rpm and 275 lbf·ft @ 4750 rpm
Right and with a Tune the Stang is pushing about 330bhp...and over 300lb-ft.

So you can see the numbers aren't that far apart.
If i was racing something with 500bhp, then the difference in performance would be significant.

I can tell you that i had a 1999 Stang that was SuperCharged and i beat Ferrarris on more then one occasion in that car. I was pushing about 390bhp.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Modenas are nothing to write home about. Poor mans ferrari. They aren't very fast in a straight line.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Don't look at the power...look at the times...
If its capable of a 12.3 @ 119...
...if he knew how to drive. or wasn't toying with you.. you'd be seeing his tail lights

We all know anything can happen on the streets, and I don't like bench racing..so I'm not saying your story isn't true, but don't think that each run will be the same.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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will that kind of mph he should of blew right past you
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Don't look at the power...look at the times...
If its capable of a 12.3 @ 119...
...if he knew how to drive. or wasn't toying with you.. you'd be seeing his tail lights

We all know anything can happen on the streets, and I don't like bench racing..so I'm not saying your story isn't true, but don't think that each run will be the same.
Most run around 13.0 from what I've seen. Don't trust your google search that lead to to Wiki. 12.3@119 ina 400bhp car isn't happening. Trap speeds don't lie.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CannonBaller
Right and with a Tune the Stang is pushing about 330bhp...and over 300lb-ft.

So you can see the numbers aren't that far apart.
If i was racing something with 500bhp, then the difference in performance would be significant.

I can tell you that i had a 1999 Stang that was SuperCharged and i beat Ferrarris on more then one occasion in that car. I was pushing about 390bhp.

Forgot about mass:

Modena 5.4 lb/hp
Mustang 11.6 lb/hp

Not trying to kill your buzz. At speed with outside environmental factors in play anything is possible. But we're simply saying that Ferrari wasn't running at 10/10ths.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Most run around 13.0 from what I've seen. Don't trust your google search that lead to to Wiki. 12.3@119 ina 400bhp car isn't happening. Trap speeds don't lie.
Driven many? Regardless, Ferrari doesn't optimize for 1/4 mile times. Their high strung motors will never hook on street meat. Slap a set of drag radials on it and see what it can do. Once you're rolling it's a totally different story.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RobK
Driven many? Regardless, Ferrari doesn't optimize for 1/4 mile times. Their high strung motors will never hook on street meat. Slap a set of drag radials on it and see what it can do. Once you're rolling it's a totally different story.
Driven? No
Raced against? A few
Seen them lose? I've lost count of the number of times I've seen a cocky modena owner walk away from a race with his tail between his legs.

And that's my whole point, it's not optimized for 1/4 mile. I said they weren't fast in a straight line. 12.3 is not possible in a full weight 400hp car that isn't gear for the 1/4 mile. It's not a matter of traction at all. 400bhp is only 350rwhp on a really good day. Low end torque is what causes traction issues and that's something a 8000 rpm road race motor doesn't have to worry about.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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this reminds me of the time i saw a ford gt while i was driving....well lets just say we all knew what happened

a ferarri is a ferarri the name speaks for itself....i could care less if any owner raced someone and walked away from a race with his tail between his legs. hes driving a sweet car regardless...thats like if i had a lambo and a honda pulled next to me, id be like, get away from me
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CannonBaller
Right and with a Tune the Stang is pushing about 330bhp...and over 300lb-ft.

So you can see the numbers aren't that far apart.
If i was racing something with 500bhp, then the difference in performance would be significant.

I can tell you that i had a 1999 Stang that was SuperCharged and i beat Ferrarris on more then one occasion in that car. I was pushing about 390bhp.
Nick, your forgetting one important thing, the 360's weigh ALOT less than our cars, hence the better power-to-weight ratio. The curb weight is just a snidge over 3,000 lbs, while our cars are around 3,500 lbs.

And your supercharged car, what Ferrari did you beat with it. If it was a 348, those were a joke of a Ferrari. And yeah, a supercharged car would be a n/a older ferrari off the line. Its just like a Roush able to beat me being N/A. Its not an even matchup. Just because it has a Prancing Horse doesn't mean its some amazingly fast car. A 308 isn't really fast at all. But a 575, you would have been smoked in a minute.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 05fordgt
A 308 isn't really fast at all.
But they sure are pretty! ... too much Magnum PI for me
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Strickland
But they sure are pretty! ... too much Magnum PI for me
Good one Strickland. Don't forget the Detroit Tigers cap when you drive one.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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forget about the numbers

forget about stats...the reality is that he kept up with the MODENA.....

carl lewis took on ben johnson a few times in his career......
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