Mestizo

Ok,

I stepped on my friend's toes a little bit today. Quick background..we always raz/joke with each other constantly. Here's the scenario....we were talking cars and which cars I'm looking at....well I'll just type it:
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Him: What cars are you looking at?
Me: Mustang and Subaru WRX...and a few others

Him: Get an suv
Me: Nah not an suv guy

Him: Get a truck
Me: Nah not a truck guy

Him: Get an M3
Me: Nah, I'm more secure in my manhood than needing to have that car to make me feel like a man.

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From that point he went on diss the Mustang and say that the M3 would cream the Stang. I responded by saying the Cobra and Subaru Sti could compete with just a few tweaks....with keeping the tag under $50K

I think the M3 CLS or whatever has a 0-60 time of 4.3. While a GT and Mach has mid 5's.

Of course the comparision isn't fair due to BMW's $50K price tag.............WAY out of my range.

So my question is how much money WOULD it take(a GT or Mach 1) to get a 0-60 time of 4.3?

Mestizo

I should clarify.......he was trying to compare M3 car to a GT.

He wasn't thinking Cobra or Mach 1.

Just saying Mach 1 makes my mouth water........I'm sure it would dry out my wallet.

Oh BTW.....it feels good to be a GT member.

jgsmuzzy

You would surely have to supercharge it, not sure how much that costs! Or buy a cobra crate engine and see if it fits the new car!

Mestizo

Well even if that gets you halfway.........that makes it a $25~$30K GT <--(big OVERESTIMATE) to a $30~$35K car.


I'm not planning on going that route....I'm just curious how much price difference. I'm sure you could still have enough money to upgrade interior too.

mr-mstng

The BMW M3 is a nice car, and I would love to have another Bimmer again.

2003 BMW M3 specs:
HP: 333@7900
Tq: 262@4900
Wt: 3,415 lbs
1/4 mi: 13.2 @ 109 mph
0-60: 4.7 sec

2003 Mach 1 specs
HP: 305@6000
Tq: 320@4250
Wt: 3465 lbs
1/4 mi: 13.51 at 103.67 (MM&FF)
0-60: -

It would come down to how good the M3 driver is. Also, a Cobra would easily walk an M3.

About a new GT, I'm betting that it the numbers will be close to the Mach 1 numbers.

CatmanJJ

A Mach with gears, tires, exhaust, and shifter should toast an M3, in a straighline anyway for less then half of what a M3 costs of course this is apples to oranges.

Zastava_101

1/4 mile 13.51?

That can't be right.

Do you have that issue of MM&FF when they tested GT, Mach 1 and Cobra?

Mach 1 best 1/4 mile time was 13.156 @ 105.35.

Click here.

mr-mstng

Different article. The one I got the info from was from the Mach 1 vs. GTO article.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...s/0407mm_mach/

Mestizo

That was my point to my friend.

With $25K of mods I'm sure it would COMPETE with the M3. I just thought it was unfair to take a cheap shot, when there is a $20K+ in price difference.

conv_stang

the M3 is more of a social status sports car. even if it has 4 doors 13.2 from the factory is still a sports car. where no matter what you do to the GT it will still be a mustang. ill take a mustang anyday. but if i could afford it i would get an M3 for my daily driver and have the stang for nice days and weekends. but depending on all things the Mach 1 and M3 are pretty much dead even in acceleration. dont think the mach could go all out on the road course w/ the bimmer. atleast not a factory Mach. but the 25,000 price difference could make that up easily

Galaxie

In a straight line, you will be nose-to-nose M3vs Mach1.... if you were to spend the extra money on a Cobra, no match.

If you are just looking at straight line performance it is not a challenge to throw a few bolt ons and go M3 hunting. On a road course however, I think the M3 will beat any one of the three.

Rakshas

Not to mention the m3's world class interior, 4 usable seats, BMW service, BMW status(this means a lot to some people) and badass looks.

HotRodLincoln

That was my point to my friend.

With $25K of mods I'm sure it would COMPETE with the M3. I just thought it was unfair to take a cheap shot, when there is a $20K+ in price difference. [/b][/quote]
$25,000 of mods will turn anything into 10 second street/strip terror, a new Mach 1 or even a new edge GT for that matter with $25k of mods put into it will not compete with an M3, it will blow it away

Mestizo

That's why I made the manhood comment.


That's pretty much what I figured, but I'd rather have the Stang and save the cash. Even with the left over cash, there is probably room for interior upgrades. I know it won't match a BMW's interior, but you have $20K+ to deal use on other mods.

As far as performace I always think the form of straight line road.