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Old 11/20/09, 09:38 PM
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Modded 05GT vs Stock 2010 Track Pack

05 Mods:
Intake, Bama 91 tune, stock from the TB through the cats, exhaust
K-member brace w/ limiters, MGW shifter
20" Bullitt wheels, 255/35 up front and 295/30 out back, Toyo Proxes4
3.55's

2010 Track Pack is stock
I'm pretty sure the TP has 3.73's


How close is it going to be?
Old 11/20/09, 10:02 PM
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Very close.
Equal drivers, 05 gets the drag, 2010 takes the handling. Not worlds apart on either.
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My crystal ball is in the shop, but those 20's are not going to help at all.
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Well, the Track Pack comes w/ 19's.

I forgot to mention my suspension is FRPP springs over stock shocks, and I've removed my front sway bar.

The way I see it is that he'll probably have the advantage hooking which is the biggest factor, hopefully I'll hook well enough to allow my slight HP advantage make up for it.
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The Track Pack also comes with sticky tires, so unless you're also running a nice compound on those heavy 20's, the TP is going to take you in the corners.
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Originally Posted by Antigini-GT/CS
The Track Pack also comes with sticky tires, so unless you're also running a nice compound on those heavy 20's, the TP is going to take you in the corners.
Yeah, I've driven it and you can definately feel how nice the tires are. Luckily we're only racing straight, but they'll still help him hook.
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He's got the better gears(but its really not very noticeable) and less rolling mass to turn. You've got the edge on the power. I think it'll come down to who's got the better driver mod.
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The problem is that I've only got 1/4 mi to make up for his advantage in LCA's, gears, and tires. I'd be more confident if we were running to 1/2 mi.

Anyone else running 3.73's know how they work on the 1/4. I'm guessing he'll have some time in 3rd before crossing the line.

We'll find out in just a few hours.

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Not much comparison when it comes to traction off the line or in the corners. The Pirelli P-Zero summer performance tires with the track pack will be a night and day difference over the Toyo all-season 20" tires on the '05. The Ford engineer that posted here before his posts all got deleted said the Pirellis were equal to or better than some race compound tires out there. With the same tires it would probably be a drivers race, might be anyways if one of you can manage to modulate the throttle to get the best traction available and the other driver not so much.
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Originally Posted by 05GT-O.C.D.
We'll find out in just a few hours.

So how did you do?
Old 11/21/09, 08:23 PM
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So how did you do?
Few more hours (like tomorrow). I'll be sure to post up.
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Originally Posted by 05GT-O.C.D.
Few more hours (like tomorrow). I'll be sure to post up.
Got it!!
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I'd rather have the 2010 exterior and interior, but as far as handling and power, until the 5.0 hits the streets, it's all available via mods
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I think the 05 will be faster with the mods......assuming the driver executes properly.
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Exclamation

Originally Posted by crescent_wrench
I think the 05 will be faster with the mods......assuming the driver executes properly.
Driver executed properly!

Truth is, I didn't do as well as I would've liked, but I did good enough.

6-0 SHUTOUT! 05GT WINS!!!

First time out on these tires and wheels. I'm a little dissapointed because I did better last time. Last time I ran was on stock Pirelli's and 17's with an OR-H. This time was on the 20's w/ my factory H (and cats) back on. I lost only a little bit, I'm not sure whether it's due to the cats or the 20's, probably a slight combo of both. But heck, this was only my 2nd time at a track.

The Results:

05GT-O.C.D. vs Stock Track Pack

13.85 @ 99.41 vs 14.73 @ 93.35
13.86 @ 100.70 vs 13.93 @ 101.79
14.30 @ 102.98 vs 14.34 @ 99.53
13.61 @104.44 vs 15.02 @ 100.21
13.85 @ 105.59 vs 15.01 @ 103.00
13.63 @ 106.16 vs 14.31 @ 100.18
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Cool!

What were some of your 60ft times? You speed on your 13.63 run is darn good.
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I'd say the driver won this race, not the car. You should have seen if the driver of the '10 would have been willing to switch cars for a couple of passes. I'd venture a guess you would have beaten him driving his own car. How much experience did the other driver have? What your 60' times vs his?
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Originally Posted by Ministang
I'd say the driver won this race, not the car. You should have seen if the driver of the '10 would have been willing to switch cars for a couple of passes. I'd venture a guess you would have beaten him driving his own car. How much experience did the other driver have? What your 60' times vs his?
I think it's mostly the car, and maybe my buddy just isn't used to his car yet. I'm not going to lie, he's a better and more experienced driver than I. He's done really well in autocross and other racing, he's about the only person I've ever felt safe riding with during 'agressive' driving. The guy can slide a car as good as anyone.

Anywho, I'll copy/paste and update w/ 60' times.
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Thumbs up

I was really fighting for traction on a few of these. One time (my slowest run), I let completely out of the throttle to get out of the tire spin.

2.10 13.85 @ 99.41 vs 14.73 @ 93.35 2.51
2.13 13.86 @ 100.70 vs 13.93 @ 101.79 2.17
2.49 14.30 @ 102.98 vs 14.34 @ 99.53 2.34
2.15 13.61 @ 104.44 vs 15.02 @ 100.21 2.53
2.24 13.85 @ 105.59 vs 15.01 @ 103.00 3.22
2.13 13.63 @ 106.16 vs 14.31 @ 100.18 2.25

So on this day I guess I was the better driver, the truth is I think it's more of a combo and a little luck.
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Also - we were going to switch, but we just kinda ran out of time - it started getting crowded at the end.

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