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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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I can't believe people are dragging age into the debate about street racing. It has nothing to do with age, and everything to do with maturity. If older drivers don't support street racing, its not because they're 'old', it's because they see how dangerous it is.
It's the idiots that do 60 mph through residential streets that need to be repremanded, regardless of whether they're 16 or 56. Im not an old guy either; I'm only 21, and I'm not stupid enough to risk my life or the lives of others.
There is a fine line between safer races at night on the interstate and the stupider races with the 4-cylinder civic that wants to run with you through the middle of town. No one is personally attacking people who street race. They're just trying to keep the streets safe.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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There's no such thing as a safe street race. Safe on the streets is being a defensive driver. Safe in racing is abiding by the rules of the track. Safety doesn't care how old you are. The vast majority of the street racers are the younger guys. You can call it perception or fact. Around here, 1 out of 25 street racer's is over 24yrs. old. Nobody is saying ALL street racer's are young. The point here is that street racing is dumb.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 169stang
There's no such thing as a safe street race. Safe on the streets is being a defensive driver. Safe in racing is abiding by the rules of the track. Safety doesn't care how old you are. The vast majority of the street racers are the younger guys. You can call it perception or fact. Around here, 1 out of 25 street racer's is over 24yrs. old. Nobody is saying ALL street racer's are young. The point here is that street racing is dumb.
Driving a car isn't safe. Accidents happen at the track too. Everyone knows that street racing is frowned upon, but this isn't a police forum.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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Older and much Wiser and also Much faster than you will ever be.Come to FFW at New England Dragway.I will show you old as I make you swallow your exhaust tip
Yeah ok bud. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
Driving a car isn't safe. Accidents happen at the track too. Everyone knows that street racing is frowned upon, but this isn't a police forum.
Please explain who said accidents don't happen at the track. My point is that accidents happen in racing period. The difference is that there are medical personnel AT the track, for WHEN they happen. Whose policing any forum? Someone makes a thread about street racing...some comment on the stupidity and some don't.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 06:30 AM
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Do you guys want to keep this discussion going? I already know which direction this thread is going

To the drag racing guru's here, i'll be posting my first official time slip scans for your scrutiny very soon.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Galaxie
Do you guys want to keep this discussion going?
No one is going to change their opinion on this subject solely based on the posts in this thread. Only maturity will change minds... until then, some guys will continue to insist that street racing is OK. Once they finally mature, they'll see the light.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Unless I'm in the minority, and I don't think I am. I've street raced way too many times in my younger years. Looking back, it was an adrenalin rush, but very stupid. It only takes one car to pull out in front of you at 80+ mph and it is over. I've had a couple friends get busted for it, and pay a high price in insurance and lawyer's fees. One of them was street racing in an area where the cops used to ignore it. I also remember a couple of unfortunate incidents where people, including a husband and wife, lost their lives. Fortunately, there is a quarter mile track in my area now, and $15 for test and tune night is a bargain for safety.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 169stang
Please explain who said accidents don't happen at the track. My point is that accidents happen in racing period. The difference is that there are medical personnel AT the track, for WHEN they happen. Whose policing any forum? Someone makes a thread about street racing...some comment on the stupidity and some don't.
Accidents do happen in racing, that's a fact. I've never seen an EMT at my local track, but I do think the FD is close by. If you don't like street racing, don't comment in these threads. I don't condone street racing, but it's been overplayed by the media and police. Like I stated above, statistically it's small potatoes compared to other vices while driving. The reason people street race around here is because none of the local tracks are open on the weekends at night. Great Lakes Dragway has a "Real Street Drag" event like 5 times a summer, but it's an 1 hour and 15 minutes away from Chicago. If the local police were smart, they would sponsor a Friday night Real Street Drag event at Route 66, for example.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
Accidents do happen in racing, that's a fact. I've never seen an EMT at my local track, but I do think the FD is close by. If you don't like street racing, don't comment in these threads. I don't condone street racing, but it's been overplayed by the media and police. Like I stated above, statistically it's small potatoes compared to other vices while driving. The reason people street race around here is because none of the local tracks are open on the weekends at night. Great Lakes Dragway has a "Real Street Drag" event like 5 times a summer, but it's an 1 hour and 15 minutes away from Chicago. If the local police were smart, they would sponsor a Friday night Real Street Drag event at Route 66, for example.
You're missing the point dude! This isn't about liking or disliking street racing. Like I said, some forums don't even tolerate street stories. The reason the media even does stories about street racing is b/c typically, something bad happens that could have been avoided. There are too many victims of street racing that aren't even doing the street racing. Regardless of how "small potatoes" you think it is, accidents can be avoided. Take it to the track and you won't have those accidents with innocent bystanders! Funny how you say you "don't condone street racing, but..." You then justify street racing b/c of how far the track is or when it's open. Make up your mind.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Street racing will never stop unless affordable and accessible alternatives are provided, period. Most kids can't wait til "open track nights" and then drive down to it, assuming it's within a reasonable distance in the first place. I'm not condoning it, but trying to view the problem objectively. Really, how hard would it be to designate and secure a 1/4 mile strip of road somewhere in every town? IMHO, providing more legal tracks with easy, regular and affordable access to racers would help curb the street racing issue. Eliminate it? No, but it should help.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rebel73
Street racing will never stop unless affordable and accessible alternatives are provided, period. Most kids can't wait til "open track nights" and then drive down to it, assuming it's within a reasonable distance in the first place. I'm not condoning it, but trying to view the problem objectively. Really, how hard would it be to designate and secure a 1/4 mile strip of road somewhere in every town? IMHO, providing more legal tracks with easy, regular and affordable access to racers would help curb the street racing issue. Eliminate it? No, but it should help.
This shows how effective an organized program can be (especially the 4th paragraph):

http://www.racelegal.com/site/introduction.htm
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 169stang
You're missing the point dude! This isn't about liking or disliking street racing. Like I said, some forums don't even tolerate street stories. The reason the media even does stories about street racing is b/c typically, something bad happens that could have been avoided. There are too many victims of street racing that aren't even doing the street racing. Regardless of how "small potatoes" you think it is, accidents can be avoided. Take it to the track and you won't have those accidents with innocent bystanders! Funny how you say you "don't condone street racing, but..." You then justify street racing b/c of how far the track is or when it's open. Make up your mind.
No I am not missing the point. Driving a car is dangerous, even driving 30 mph CAN kill you. 85% of accidents are caused by driver error/distractions. Here is some more statistics on drunk driving:http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-dr...tatistics.html . The statistics don't lie and most people don't know them. They go off of what the media says and think that because the media makes a huge deal out of street racing, it's a epidemic.

As for my justifying street racing, I never did if you re-read my post. I gave reasons WHY people street race around here. If the street racers had a safe and legal place to race from 5-12 on Friday and Saturday nights, street racing would decline. The fact of the matter is they don't and they are stupid for it. They are not taking a proactive approach to the situation. All they would have to do is call up their colleagues in San Diego and ask for some data pertaining to the exact subject matter.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by don_w
This shows how effective an organized program can be (especially the 4th paragraph):

http://www.racelegal.com/site/introduction.htm
Don, that's what I was referring to in my post below. It actually is nice to see a Police organization actually take a proactive approach to solve the problem. It has worked in this case and other departments across the country are stupid for not copying this program.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by don_w
This shows how effective an organized program can be (especially the 4th paragraph):

http://www.racelegal.com/site/introduction.htm
Now that's what I'm talking about! Give the kids a viable alternative, and they'll use it!

(Ricer): Hey dude, you wanna run?
(Stanger): Sure man, follow me to the track. I'll eat your lunch in front of an audience... I love rice with my beef...
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Now that's what I'm talking about! Give the kids a viable alternative, and they'll use it!
hehe... it's not just for the kids. My car has been down that track almost 200 times so far.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Don,

I'm going to pass that link around my area, hopefully the police/government will consider doing something like that in the Toronto area. There is a de-comissioned air force base with a long runway in the heart of the city, it would be perfect.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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They also run several "police [race] cars" at that track. It's interesting to line up against one, and then at WOT glance up and see flashing lights in your mirror.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
If you don't like street racing, don't comment in these threads.
Thank you. You guys aren't going to change anyone's mind on forums by running your mouth on how dangerous street racing is. Just let it go.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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I just think there should be no posts of street racing allowed.Like we dont want to here(I raced this 05GTO on the Highway or How many Zo6,s I Beat or lost to.You know what I mean.Track Numbers,Dyno Numbers and Seat of pants feeling.NO STREET RACING POSTS ALOWED.
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