Red Baron

I received the new Car and Driver magazine today. The cover story is the Mustang GT versus Pontiac GTO!

It has a really cool cover on it. I'd scan it, but my scanner is down. :angry: Anyway, to cut to the chase, Car and Driver prefers the Mustang over the GTO, even though the GTO they tested is the 05 with 400 hp and 400 lb/ft of torque. As far as speed is concerned, the GTO is faster, though. In the quarter-mile, the GTO is 13.3 @ 107mph and the Mustang is 13.8 @ 103. We need just a little more juice Ford!!

97svtgoin05gt

I still say considering they're sporting an additional 70CID and a supposed 100hp advantage, this is still very close.

Giddyup

The Mustang may only be .5 behind in the 1/4 mile.......but we are LIGHTYEARS ahead of the 'Goat' in the aesthetics department. All this works fine with me......WE LOVE OUR STANGS, and GM can take a hike back to the drawing board. B)

John H

Once again, this proves there's more to a car's success than horsepower. The Mustang lagged behind the F-body cars for years in the HP wars, but look who's still standing. :headbang:

Red Baron

Yeah - the Stang rules! I agree with the article. The 400hp may make the GTO faster NOW (the 05 Mustang can beat an 04 GTO, is my understanding), but the Mustang beats it in every other dept. - especially styling! There's no comparison overall between them, that's why they can't give away GTO's and Mustang's are averaging only 2 hours on dealer lots! Mustang will sell in one month what GTO sold all last year!

PeterPienaar

Additionally, at least 13.5's have been documented. So we're a bit closer than that. (Of course, the Goat could be faster than they ran, too, so it doesn't prove anything.)

mustang_sallad

sweet! what do they say as far as handling goes?

ustabawannab

Don't forget, no guzzler tax on the Stangs!

hiznherponies

Yep, yet again GM has a car w/ more cubic inches and HP that can post better times stock, and they still can't beat us in customer loyalty or just plain old good looks!!

Red Baron

As far as handling - the brakes are better in the GTO (braking 70 - 0 feet, 167 feet in GTO, 170 in Mustang). Skidpad is better for the Mustang (0.89 versus 0.88). Lane change is better in the Mustang, too (64.7 mph versus 62.9).

holderca1

That only applies to the Automatic GTO, the manual does not have the tax.

Galaxie

scan the article for those too cheap to buy it issue

GhostTX

That 0.5s works out to be around 90' between the GTO and the Mustang when the GTO crossed the 1/4 mi mark....if I did my math right.

1/2 second short time...90' pretty big gap.

RottenRonny

Yes. Every spare penny is going into the savings account, to put down on the new stang!

max2000jp

103 is a pretty decent trap speed. The new LS2 GTO is about equal to LS1 F-bodies. With some mods, we should be able to take out LS2 GTOs.

ZRX4ME

mustang's got looks &handling, just add a tune,exhaust and intake and your even with or ahead of a '05 GTO power wise.

future9er24

dont get me wrong, i love the stang as much as the next guy but HP, IMO wasnt the only thing bettr about the GTO. i sat in one at the SF international auto show n i think the shifter felt....sorta...better than the stock GT. but thats it.

BTW anyone else go to the show???

Steve

The ONLY way I would even consider a GTO against the '05 Mustang would be if it was cheaper in cost.

But for about $8-10k more for a GTO?

No freakin' way. The GTO is a soul-less design with nothing but a good drivetrain in it.

The '05 Mustang has it all - heritage, design, power, handling, good looks, and most of all, charisma. When you see an '05 Mustang (V6 or V8), you just KNOW it's a Mustang.

When you see a GTO (once you finally realize it IS a GTO and not a Taurus or a Grand Prix soap-bar look alike), you think, "So THAT's a GTO? I never made the connection..."

I wouldn't care if the GTO ran 11's and the Mustang ran what it does.

The Mustang is a car I will be proud to own and others will know what it is. I don't want to own a car (re: a GTO) that I have to tell everyone, "Yeah, it really IS a GTO, can't you see the emblem?".

GTO? No go for me...

pony_chief

You mean the crude stick axle that was designed by bean counters beat the sophisticated IRS? Where are all of the IRS-***** now?

Dan

You mean the crude stick axle that was designed by bean counters beat the sophisticated IRS? Where are all of the IRS-***** now? [/b][/quote]
Here here!! Congrats Ford and good job Hau! Exactly as he said.....it's a great setup.

Seriously, I'm here (old C/T "IRS ****").

I want a bumper sticker...."Supporting the 3-link since day 1." Solid axle strength with IRS equivalent handling. Does it get any better than that? I think not.