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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Question 54U Upfitter Option Availability

I'm looking for someone from a Ford Dealership that is in the know or works in the order placement area of the dealership.

Can you order 54U on a Mustang GT Delux without shipping it to Shelby for additional upgrades. There is one advertised on e-bay by a Ford Dealer.

What's the deal???????
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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+1! I too would love to know the answer to this question. This thread indicates that it is possible. http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=59012

Here's a direct link to the ebay add of a dealer who is selling a 54U pkg that didn't make the trip out to L.V. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...QQcmdZViewItem


So dealers, let us know.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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I believe you can but it takes one of your allotments out, so a dealer would be an idiot to waste it.

It looks like a ghetto interior car, so why would you want it? Get a real GT and add CS facias....Its also somewhat expensive for what it is. $2k for black bullitts and CS facias with a stripper interior?? The CS option package including the two tone leather and 18" chrome wheels actually costs less(other then requiring a 140a premium based car)
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 06:21 AM
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Actually, the answer (according to how Amy B pointed it out) is no. Once Ford found out that the ebay dealer did this, they WERE NOT HAPPY, and wanted to get the car back.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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This looks like a dealer that couldn't enter the order properly and neglected to enter in the Shelby drop ship code resulting in the ordered GT going directly to the dealer. What's interesting here is that, if true, you can see what Ford is doing vs. what Shelby is doing. Clearly it looks as though the cars are shipping with the front lower fascia, and side scoops, and the spoiler deleted. So it looks as though Shelby is installing the engine mods, hood, stripes, etc. Which in helps understand the $2000 charge which I thought was cheap. It also answers the question of why Shelby has no "take off" parts for sale. They're simply aren't any! Of course this is all a guess to me but if true the dealer is correct that there may one day be a market for this car as there is for a stamp with an error etc. At the very least it's a cool record of the process.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Ok, I am going crazy trying to find a dealer in Chicago that knows about this car! I have had to explain this to 5 already where at least 3 have tried to tell me I am wrong and then trying to tell me I'm talking about the GT500. One salesman further told me that navigation was NOT an option on the Mustang. I swear it's no wonder Ford is having issues with dealers like this! Here we have a flagship brand product for the company, one they actually make money on, and their dealer salespeople have this little product knowledge? Tell me again their value? Ugh....I want this car but getting someone to talk about it has been a chore. I am now waiting on two dealerships to "do some research" and have someone call me. uh huh...swell.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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Ok, I am going crazy trying to find a dealer in Chicago that knows about this car! I have had to explain this to 5 already where at least 3 have tried to tell me I am wrong and then trying to tell me I'm talking about the GT500. One salesman further told me that navigation was NOT an option on the Mustang. I swear it's no wonder Ford is having issues with dealers like this! Here we have a flagship brand product for the company, one they actually make money on, and their dealer salespeople have this little product knowledge? Tell me again their value? Ugh....I want this car but getting someone to talk about it has been a chore. I am now waiting on two dealerships to "do some research" and have someone call me. uh huh...swell.
Sorry to hear about your troubles. All these salespeople need to do is go onto FMC dealer (the dealer website) and print out the newest updated ordering guide from November 1. It clearly states that Navigation is an option. Again, sorry for your troubles. Its places like those your mentioning that give my profession a VERY bad name.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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What is this ?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Good News!!!!

I found a dealer willing to order their allocation, hadn't yet cause they didn't know it existed, with no mark-up! Yeah me! They said I'm the only person that's come in and asked about the car. Thank gawd for small town dealers! The other dealer I was waiting on called back and wanted $10K over MSRP. I was like thanks...cya!

BTW: Check this out!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...79412144QQrdZ1

This wack job dealer is showing pictures of the Hertz car and when it was pointed out that the stripes where silver has replied that he is waiting to hear back from his Ford Rep! can these people read? Ugh...if my sales people had this level of knowledge and sold non-existent product, like the guy above, I would fire them. What if some poor sucker sees this and thinks he's getting the C6/8 hood, rear deck spoiler, etc. Oops! Sorry!
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by blkstang06
What is this ?
Shelby GT and the GT500 only have a tire inflation kit instead of the spare tire due to space issues from what I understand.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 05fordgt
Sorry to hear about your troubles. All these salespeople need to do is go onto FMC dealer (the dealer website) and print out the newest updated ordering guide from November 1. It clearly states that Navigation is an option. Again, sorry for your troubles. Its places like those your mentioning that give my profession a VERY bad name.

Yup, the Shelby I ordered has Nav. Unfortunately you can not get the ICAP, Premier trim package, nor comfort group with the 54U. After GGtax its over $41K MSRP. I have seen a few Shelbys with no IUP online, it has the rubber steering wheel and the Shelby plaque stuck to the black plastic dash, who the hell ordered that?
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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Yeah...

Originally Posted by kevinb120
Yup, the Shelby I ordered has Nav. Unfortunately you can not get the ICAP, Premier trim package, nor comfort group with the 54U. After GGtax its over $41K MSRP. I have seen a few Shelbys with no IUP online, it has the rubber steering wheel and the Shelby plaque stuck to the black plastic dash, who the hell ordered that?
I had a dealer here that wasted their allocation ordering the same with automatic transmission! Yeah!
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Ok...just an update on my, what seems never ending quest, to buy this car. The dealer that has told me just MSRP is STILL trying to figure out the price and how to order. Waiting to hear back from their Ford Rep. I still have hope but decided to check another local dealer. As usual I got the GT500 run around and once I convinced the group of 5 idiots (aka salespeople sitting around the front desk) that this car existed, they again told me they would have to check with their Ford Rep. Now here is where it gets funny...I asked if there was going to be some market adjustment tacked on and they where like "of course!". So looking the 5 idiots I said, "Why? You've had this allocation since December, none of you even know it exists, no one else has come in asking about it or looking to buy it, except me. So where is this "market" where things are so "hot" that you need to tack on an adjustment?" It was like this look of confusion. They had no answer. Remember now I live in metropolitan Chicago. This is not a place where there are scarce potential buyers. But this car must be selling in the low numbers based upon my shopping so far 9 dealers, NONE of which had any knowledge of this car except for one where the owner ordered it, with automatic, duh, yet still none of he sales people or sales manager know about it! Just once I would love to walk into a dealership and upon asking about the Shelby GT have the salesperson say, "Sure, do you mean the SHelby GT500 or the Shelby GT?" I think I would pull my checkbook out right there! "Ford where product knowledge is job last"
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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I had a dealer here that wasted their allocation ordering the same with automatic transmission! Yeah!
Well, if the already ordered a 5-speed before the auto, Ford requires that you order the auto. Its a 50%-50% split between stick and auto, in order (5-speed, auto, 5-speed, auto, etc). If you have 4 customers who all want 5-speeds, only 2 will get what they want.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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Ok...just an update on my, what seems never ending quest, to buy this car. The dealer that has told me just MSRP is STILL trying to figure out the price and how to order. Waiting to hear back from their Ford Rep. I still have hope but decided to check another local dealer. As usual I got the GT500 run around and once I convinced the group of 5 idiots (aka salespeople sitting around the front desk) that this car existed, they again told me they would have to check with their Ford Rep. Now here is where it gets funny...I asked if there was going to be some market adjustment tacked on and they where like "of course!". So looking the 5 idiots I said, "Why? You've had this allocation since December, none of you even know it exists, no one else has come in asking about it or looking to buy it, except me. So where is this "market" where things are so "hot" that you need to tack on an adjustment?" It was like this look of confusion. They had no answer. Remember now I live in metropolitan Chicago. This is not a place where there are scarce potential buyers. But this car must be selling in the low numbers based upon my shopping so far 9 dealers, NONE of which had any knowledge of this car except for one where the owner ordered it, with automatic, duh, yet still none of he sales people or sales manager know about it! Just once I would love to walk into a dealership and upon asking about the Shelby GT have the salesperson say, "Sure, do you mean the SHelby GT500 or the Shelby GT?" I think I would pull my checkbook out right there! "Ford where product knowledge is job last"
Hey Jeff, if they are having such a hard time, you should give the person who took your order my phone number. I can tell those lazy people how to order the car. If they just looked in the "communications" section of the Ford dealer site, there is a 3 page link that tells everything the dealer needs to know. I've actually had several dealers call me to ask how to order the car correctly. Seems like no one has ever added in a drop-ship code before. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Thumbs up Thanks!

Thanks Jeff, I may take you up on that! Talked to them again today and they "promise" they'll have an answer Monday. Your rare let me tell ya! Good selling!
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Well if you saw how little info they give the dealers to order them.... They do have a basic 'instruction' sheet on it and gives the pricing. They base the pricing on a deluxe with just the 54U package(as an example). I have seen a few like that on FMC dealer...They literally just ordered the cheapest possible car
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Jeff, in slight defense of the dealership, the salespeople have A LOT (no pun intended) of cars to gain knowledge of.

Obviously, we all know how much horsepower, torque, every single option, every color option, etc about the Mustangs. Well, the public expects the salesperson to know all that info about every car sold on the lot, including trucks. (I would hope that people do their own research on this, but many don't)

So, while is may seem naive for them to not know about the shelby GT, just think about all the information that they do know.

Now, I am in no way associated with dealerships, nor am I a huge "fan" of what dealers do/act sometimes, but I do try to give some respect to them, especially if they are trying to help the best they can.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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Well considering a salesperson will not make a decent living selling only Mustangs, and just the F-series alone has more possible combinations then all available Toyota and Honda products combined, most salespeople really aren't Mustang nuts. Heck, Ford's incredibly complicated incentive programs alone can really try your ability just to stay on top of them.

Seeing that a typical dealer gets 2 Shelby-GT's; personally if I were not a Mustang fan and a 'normal' salesperson I wouldn't care one iota about a single detail on them unless it was in my showroom and a customer in front of me was ready to buy it. In actuality I really don't care about it much either, the chances of it making me money makes it quite stupid wasting time researching it. Remember, being a successful auto salesperson has a 95% failure rate. I have seen retired military officers, commercial pilots, and people with Phd's crack trying to do it. We have never had more then 14 salespeople at a time in this store in the 4 years it's been open, and I have seen well over 100 salespeople come and go. What's the average turnover for a government job, 15 years per person?? Apparently with a lot of office jobs, if you can breathe without having to try, you can do it. It's also funny how much different a customer will treat you when they have tried to do it themselves in the past.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mikes rx
Jeff, in slight defense of the dealership, the salespeople have A LOT (no pun intended) of cars to gain knowledge of.

Obviously, we all know how much horsepower, torque, every single option, every color option, etc about the Mustangs. Well, the public expects the salesperson to know all that info about every car sold on the lot, including trucks. (I would hope that people do their own research on this, but many don't)

So, while is may seem naive for them to not know about the shelby GT, just think about all the information that they do know.

Now, I am in no way associated with dealerships, nor am I a huge "fan" of what dealers do/act sometimes, but I do try to give some respect to them, especially if they are trying to help the best they can.
I understand. I honestly don't expect them to know things like torque, etc., but they MUST know the major programs of their flagship product. Bold moves mean NOTHING if they don't get to the showroom floor. Ford is in DEEP trouble and salespeople that want to be successful, in ANY business, need product knowledge. The deeper the knowledge the better they are in matching customer needs to Ford products. I hear what you're saying but this is Sales 101. If you can't do that you're nothing but an order taker and don't deserve your commission. Ford, and the dealerships, make $$$$ on the Mustang. The Mustang generates foot traffic, builds the brand, etc.

Again, while I agree they can't know everything, they need to know the basic features and benefits of the products they sell in each delivered configuration. Maybe they should sit with a few books, read some web reviews, of these posts, rather than sit together like the five idiots at the dealership I went to crowded around the front desk drinking coffee. Saleman have a a lot of downtime, Ford more than most lately it seems, maybe they should put that time to good use?

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